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Old 03-29-2024, 09:18 AM
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Not sure I follow why it's a big deal.

With or without the notation, it's pretty obvious that there are pieces missing.

I can't imagine anyone looking at this card and thinking that it's somehow less valuable or less important simply because of the notation.

Maybe you're hoping for the return of the SGC set registry, and by losing the notation, you'll get a bump in the scoring?
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It does not meet the definition of a 1. Those are not small pieces missing. Not even a close call.
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Not sure I follow why it's a big deal.

With or without the notation, it's pretty obvious that there are pieces missing.

I can't imagine anyone looking at this card and thinking that it's somehow less valuable or less important simply because of the notation.

Maybe you're hoping for the return of the SGC set registry, and by losing the notation, you'll get a bump in the scoring?
It’s not necessarily that it’s a big deal. I feel like I’ve seen cards that have had significant amounts of the card missing. I was also wondering exactly what they consider a “small portion” of the card missing and the fact that they determined that there was evidence of trimming is not something that I agree with. I think the portions of card missing we’re just worn away over time Like rounded corners, but more substantial than that.

I’m not worried about the registry returning and the A versus the 1. More just that I feel that the way it was described with the trimming was not accurate in my estimation.

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I seem to remember someone had some kind of a program where they could determine the percentage of card actually missing based on the photo. If someone can point me in the direction of how to do that, I would love to figure that out.
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I've had ones come back "too fragile to holder" isn't that part of the POINT of holdering them
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I actually laughed out loud when I saw that. Evidence of trimming? No shit, Sherlock, what was the clue that let you crack that case? Talk about overkill. It's like ta MK or MC qualifier on a PSA 1. Do we really need more than a 1 to know it's a beater?
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Evidence of trimming? No shit, Sherlock, what was the clue that let you crack that case?
This card seems like a good starting point to retrain any grader assigning numeric grades to trimmed cards. If they can't get this one correct, there's no hope. If they spot this one, you gradually increase the level of difficulty.

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It certainly doesn't belong in a numeric holder, and they don't have a designation for "Evidence of Mutilation", so I'm not sure what the complaint is here. It's not like that flip is hurting the resale value of this card.
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I've had ones come back "too fragile to holder" isn't that part of the POINT of holdering them
Agree 100%. Holdering is the way to preserve it. Silly that they wont.

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I've had ones come back "too fragile to holder" isn't that part of the POINT of holdering them
I would think this means they were worried that the card would be damaged during the process of putting it into the holder.
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Why even grade it? Anyone with eyes can see what it is. Who cares what some random stranger thinks about it? Why is this important?
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Why even grade it? Anyone with eyes can see what it is. Who cares what some random stranger thinks about it? Why is this important?
+1 on that, sir.
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