Observations from the Card Show Front Lines - UPDATED!!!

ALBB · #1 04-23-2024, 01:06 PM

Man, that is some funny stuff!

jp1216 · #2 04-23-2024, 02:03 PM

Great read! Thank You!

raulus · #3 04-23-2024, 02:17 PM

62T Mays sells for a premium because of that woody border. Lots of chipping and damage. Similar to 55B or 71T. A little damage goes a long way, so higher grades are rare and valuable.

That and everything Mays in high-ish grades is crazy expensive these days.

Kutcher55 · #4 04-23-2024, 03:24 PM

Always a good read, jolly. If cards like the 62 Willie Mays could talk they would tell you not to put them in a CSG holder. Ugh.

Guys that hide their prices drive me crazy, although if I see a card I am after I will always ask to look at it price unknown. It is annoying when you ask to see a card and flip it around to discover that the price is 50% above market, as is unfortunately the case with a lot of front price tags as well. I would like to hear a good reason for putting the tag on the back. Perhaps it gives the seller a strategic advantage? This probably isn't fair but any time I see a case of cards without prices I tend to assume the dealer is a dickhead. Call me judgmental I guess. They can't all be bad guys.

That all said, I would suspect price-hiders tend to be more expensive overall than the guys who put the tag the tag in front.

raulus · #5 04-23-2024, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

Always a good read, jolly. If cards like the 62 Willie Mays could talk they would tell you not to put them in a CSG holder. Ugh.

Guys that hide their prices drive me crazy, although if I see a card I am after I will always ask to look at it price unknown. It is annoying when you ask to see a card and flip it around to discover that the price is 50% above market, as is unfortunately the case with a lot of front price tags as well. I would like to hear a good reason for putting the tag on the back. Perhaps it gives the seller a strategic advantage? This probably isn't fair but any time I see a case of cards without prices I tend to assume the dealer is a dickhead. Call me judgmental I guess. They can't all be bad guys.

That all said, I would suspect price-hiders tend to be more expensive overall than the guys who put the tag the tag in front.

If the complaints around here are to be believed, then people who sell on eBay don't escape condemnation for asking museum prices, and yet displaying the price right up front where everyone can see it.

JollyElm · #6 04-24-2024, 04:47 PM

Certainly there's gotta be other factors involved with the '62 Mays other than the splintering (see what I did there?) of the wood border, right??

I just had my 1962 Topps #10 Roberto Clemente come back as an SGC 7. An absolutely gorgeous card, yet the prices of his 'sevens' are a mere fraction of what the Mayses (is that the correct way to pluralize Willie?) go for. It's obviously not a perfect comparison, but those two guys sort of occupy the same echelon of 'greatness,' so I imagine their cards should be more similar in value.

Doing a quick (non-scientific) look at the sold prices of their 1961, 1963 and 1964 Topps cards shows a much stronger parallel of value between their PSA 7 cards.

We need Miss Marple to get off of her lazy butt and start working on this mystery...

raulus · #7 04-24-2024, 05:30 PM

Looks like a couple of other factors are cited on other threads for why high grade 62T Mays sells for a premium:

1) The dark background in the photo results in a lot of snow, so higher grade cards are more difficult to find.

2) There is often a smudge found by Willie's name or on the thick black line on the bottom edge. These common print defects also mean that it's harder to find a really nice copy.

I guess add those to the woody borders, and you've got your answer. There's just not that many 8s and 9s out there. And these days, everyone who wants but can't afford 8s and 9s are dropping down and bidding up the prices for 6s and 7s.

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