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05-03-2024, 01:02 AM
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It fits the time frame of the proof sheet, and 'Paul' or 'Bill' could easily be mistaken for Roy. Ok, the name thing is a little sketchy stretchy, but it could have been a mistake. Here is a photo of Bill Otis next to the Roy Otis card on the sheet. There are some similarities (the shape of his ear is pretty similar, the eyes and mouth as well), but not convinced it is a good match due to the fullness of face on the proof sheet compared to Bill's photo. proofsheetpaulfranklinotis.jpg proofsheet1913royotis.jpg Brian Last edited by brianp-beme; 05-03-2024 at 01:22 AM. 
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05-03-2024, 01:09 AM
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Taking a look at some 1912 T207 cards, the 'NY' emblem seen on the proof sheet does seem to match those seen on Yankee player T207 cards.
Brian
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05-03-2024, 01:19 AM
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Fun side factoid. Bill Otis was 1 for 17 during his major league career, his one hit coming off Walter Johnson in an extra inning game that Johnson came in the fourth inning to pitch over 12 innings of relief(!).
He was also the oldest living MLB player (100 years old) when he passed away in 1990. Brian
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05-03-2024, 01:38 AM
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Roy Otis is Otis "Doc" Crandall, as they state in the description.
This item was discussed here years ago: https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1385155
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05-03-2024, 03:49 AM
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So this item was actually being sold for the second time by Hunt Auctions. According to the link provided in the thread from 2015, it sold for $36,634 plus buyer’s premium in 2015, which is less than the $30K plus buyer’s premium it sold this time around.. Leon’s comment from 2015 is fascinating/revealing: “This from a close hobby friend and as trustworthy as they come- (this is assuming it hasn't changed hands) "Around the late 1990's, the owner of that uncut sheet in Hunt's consigned it to me for private sale. I made a color photocopy of it and sent it out to about 50 people. Nobody showed a strong interest in it, and most were not sure if it was period. I ended up returning it to the owner. I think we were asking 15K for it. I don't remember who got my mailing but it was obviously all of the heavy hitters I knew back then. ...”" If Leon’s friend was shopping it around for $15k in the ‘90s, then i guess the seller must have been happy to get $40k at auction in 2015 (assuming it didn’t change hands, etc) Last edited by cgjackson222; 05-03-2024 at 04:57 AM.
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05-03-2024, 07:55 AM
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Don’t know if it means anything but it appears The lettering is done by hand ,
The “S”s , “H”s etc are all slightly different , “Gregg” and “Marquard” are way off centered - giving the cards a crude ancient look
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05-03-2024, 08:04 AM
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I don't know if it's real or not but anytime I see those big stars, in the same unique place, it gives me some pause. Someone needs to invest in some scientifc analysis of the ink, paper and the process used to print it.
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05-03-2024, 01:44 AM
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"Thin to medium stock paper uncut sheet (slightly thicker than 1914/1915 Cracker Jack card issues) depicting (12) Major League players in full color including Ty Cobb, Bill Schardt, Chief Bender, Roy Otis (actually Otis Crandall), Hughie Jennings, Ira Thomas, Vean Gregg, Harry Davis, Hub Perdue, Rube Marquard, Joe Jackson, and Frank Baker."
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