2024 Classic HOF election

The Detroit Collector · #1 05-04-2024, 01:14 PM

The way Catchers are getting recognized these days, I would like to see Bill Freehan get in.

perezfan · #2 05-04-2024, 01:33 PM

I would like to see 3 Cincinnati-related Execs get in, as all three are overlooked...

John Brush, August Herrmann, and Bob Howsam (despite his idiotic decision to trade Tony Perez for Woody Fryman after the 1976 season). Still, the architect and creator of the Big Red Machine needs to be in the HOF.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 05-04-2024, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Detroit Collector

The way Catchers are getting recognized these days, I would like to see Bill Freehan get in.

11x all star, but has he even been on a ballot in recent years?

molenick · #4 05-04-2024, 02:27 PM

The fact that there are only two era committees and the early one covers anyone before 1980 will make it very difficult for any specific player we mention to get in. Essentially they are considering everyone from Jim Creighton to Dick Allen (about 120 years of baseball). First you have to get on the ballot, then you need 3/4 of the votes. As mentioned, the ballot consists of eight names, and I have a feeling many of of us could think of eight players (or managers, executives, umpires, pioneers, etc.) deserving of consideration in any of five distinct categories: 19th century, dead ball era, live ball era pre-integration, post-integration before 1980, Negro League and pre-Negro Leagues...let alone eight people from the entire period.

To whittle 120 years of candidates down to eight will be a tough task...and then you need to get 75% of the final vote. So, I imagine someone will get in...but who that will be seems like a crap shoot.

Moonlight Graham · #5 05-04-2024, 05:34 PM

Roger Maris

Exhibitman · #6 05-04-2024, 05:42 PM

Needs a card

Fuddjcal · #7 10-02-2024, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Needs a card

Yes it does! That's a great one. This is one of my favorite card and it should be in the Baseball Card HOF too, along with Richie!

https://www.thebaseballcardhof.com/

shout out to ray from Philly

Peter_Spaeth · #8 10-02-2024, 01:43 PM

Interesting that he has cards as Richie, Rich, and Dick. Must be some sort of record.

Brian Van Horn · #9 05-04-2024, 05:53 PM

I have to hold off. I'm thinking of who is not in the Rock Hall of Fame and that list includes Gordon Lightfoot, Joe Cocker, Steppenwolf and the Guess Who. Since the last National in Cleveland, however, the Ferris wheel has been moved from the airport to the Rock Hall of Fame.

Mike D. · #10 05-05-2024, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by molenick

The fact that there are only two era committees and the early one covers anyone before 1980 will make it very difficult for any specific player we mention to get in. Essentially they are considering everyone from Jim Creighton to Dick Allen (about 120 years of baseball). First you have to get on the ballot, then you need 3/4 of the votes. As mentioned, the ballot consists of eight names, and I have a feeling many of of us could think of eight players (or managers, executives, umpires, pioneers, etc.) deserving of consideration in any of five distinct categories: 19th century, dead ball era, live ball era pre-integration, post-integration before 1980, Negro League and pre-Negro Leagues...let alone eight people from the entire period.

To whittle 120 years of candidates down to eight will be a tough task...and then you need to get 75% of the final vote. So, I imagine someone will get in...but who that will be seems like a crap shoot.

Yes, this. There are SO many directions the committee could go, it's almost impossible to speculate. Maybe this is the discussion of "who could/should be on the ballot".

But 8 players from 120 years of baseball is tough. I'm sure you could come up with a good list of 8 pre-war, 8 50's-60's, 8 70's, and 8 negro league stars and all those lists would be defensible. Probably a list of managers, execs, pioneers, etc. that you could add to the tally.

It'll be really interesting to see who ends up on the ballot. The only sure thing is that there will be SOME deserving candiates on the list, but that none of us will agree with the entire list.

Beercan collector · #11 05-05-2024, 08:02 AM

Phil Plantier

Bobmc · #12 05-05-2024, 08:27 AM

Tommy John and Billy Pierce

The Detroit Collector · #13 05-04-2024, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

11x all star, but has he even been on a ballot in recent years?

It's been forever. But with there being a new look at catchers these days, he should get another look, especially if Thurman Munson is in the conversation.

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