Final UPDATE. PSA Guarantee on a doctored card - Actual good news this time

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sell it, hopefully with disclosure, and replace it. Not worth the aggravation.

Why should be disclose anything? He innocently bought the POS card relying on the reputation of the TPG. They doubled down and said it was good. How far does he have to go? I am all for disclosure but what is he disclosing? This is for PSA to defend, imo. I think he did the right thing by bringing it to their attention.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Why should be disclose anything? He innocently bought the POS card relying on the reputation of the TPG. They doubled down and said it was good. How far does he have to go? I am all for disclosure but what is he disclosing? This is for PSA to defend, imo. I think he did the right thing by bringing it to their attention.

I understand that, I guess personally I would not feel comfortable selling a card I knew to be altered without laying out the facts.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I understand that, I guess personally I would not feel comfortable selling a card I knew to be altered without laying out the facts.

The whole altered card world is super frustrating to me as a consumer. I understand your pov. In truth, disclosing might not have any impact on the final price. I would think that most people who are buying high grade 50s star cards either have to know, assume or don't care that they have an altered card. Registry points are important, ya know.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

The whole altered card world is super frustrating to me as a consumer. I understand your pov. In truth, disclosing might not have any impact on the final price. I would think that most people who are buying high grade 50s star cards either have to know, assume or don't care that they have an altered card. Registry points are important, ya know.

I am sure the price would still be strong.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I am all for disclosure but what is he disclosing?

The truth. That's it, just the truth. Actual, honest reality. Should that not be enough of a reason?

I'm sure by tomorrow morning this will be another thread where we pretend that just being honest is oh so complicated and/or difficult and/or somehow actually wrong.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by G1911

The truth. That's it, just the truth. Actual, honest reality. Should that not be enough of a reason?

Not gonna argue with that. I just went back and reread what was done to the card and it is obvious it is an altered card...nothing subjective there. So disclosure should be in order.

The best way to do that is to give it to an auction house that will write it up properly giving the card the best chance of being identified as an altered card that subsequent potential buyers can refer back to, if they wanted. If it is listed on eBay the description will not exist after 60 days.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by G1911

The truth. That's it, just the truth. Actual, honest reality. Should that not be enough of a reason?

The site needs a "BINGO!!" button.

[Peter_Spaeth]

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved PSA.

[ullmandds]

I agree...the card should be destroyed!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved PSA.

Is this autobiographical?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Is this autobiographical?

More like in reverse. I started out a big fan. Flash back to 1996, sent in a bunch of cards purchased from an SCD ad, got a call from Mike Baker telling me they were all trimmed and explaining what to look for. I thought they were great. It took quite some time to undo that perception.

[G1911]

Instead of destroying the card, selling it with disclosure, selling it without disclosure, and keeping it in its slab there is another fun option...

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by G1911

The truth. That's it, just the truth. Actual, honest reality. Should that not be enough of a reason?

I'm sure by tomorrow morning this will be another thread where we pretend that just being honest is oh so complicated and/or difficult and/or somehow actually wrong.

Hahaha...true!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Why should be disclose anything? He innocently bought the POS card relying on the reputation of the TPG. They doubled down and said it was good. How far does he have to go? I am all for disclosure but what is he disclosing? This is for PSA to defend, imo. I think he did the right thing by bringing it to their attention.

https://thecollectorconnection.com/b...e?itemid=20787

"To be 100% forthcoming we thought the upper right of the top border was trimmed. We submitted this at the National and when we got notice of the grade we immediately asked PSA, before we even took possession, to take another look. They stood behind their grade. Of course once it received a grade the question became "How is this only a 1.5?"

Disclosure won't necessarily hurt the end price. It's better to do it and be able to sleep at night.