Memory Lane sold cards they didn't have per SCD

DeanH3 · #1 05-10-2024, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Yup. And that is exactly why Memory Lane and I (and the other affected consignors) conspired to have cards stolen, so we could shill bid the "stolen" cards and commit insurance fraud and make a little extra money. We just had no idea that you internet geniuses would figure out our brilliant plan.

Brunswickreeves, you are getting awfully close to implying something that is very untrue and extremely offensive. Watch it.

Guys, please be mindful that this is a public message board, and that this is a real and very unfortunate situation with the real potential for economic and reputational loss to real people. Its one thing to discuss this matter -- its a BIG deal in our hobby and should be discussed. But its another altogether to start making assumptions on facts nobody knows about and, worse, making assumptions about people's motives, throwing around words like fraudulent, "price run ups", etc.

Ryan Hotchkiss, Consignor to Memory Lane

Leon, perhaps its time to lock this thread before some members get sued (or counter-sued in the case of Snowman) because of careless, false, and harmful public statements.

Ryan, I'm hoping for the best for you. You've handled this situation way better than I would have. Good luck to you brother.

Snapolit1 · #2 05-10-2024, 02:20 AM

For good or for bad, we live in a world where every story is a wild Netflix mystery to be solved, and every half baked idea or half ass speculation that someone concocts is dished out as stone cold fact. The idea of waiting for the actual facts to come out is a long gone quaint concept.

Was fighting with a few board members who figured out the whole Ohtani gambling situation days after it broke, based on nothing more than their filling in the blanks and drawing unwarranted conclusions from news articles based on zero evidence. Of course when LE came out to explain what the years of evidence showed actually did happen, it didn't square with their story at all. So at that point they immediately pivoted to argue coverup, because their half ass story could possibly be wrong.

That's the world we live in. Rush to judgment. I've figured it all out from my computer.

Mark17 · #3 05-10-2024, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

For good or for bad, we live in a world where every story is a wild Netflix mystery to be solved, and every half baked idea or half ass speculation that someone concocts is dished out as stone cold fact. The idea of waiting for the actual facts to come out is a long gone quaint concept.

Was fighting with a few board members who figured out the whole Ohtani gambling situation days after it broke, based on nothing more than their filling in the blanks and drawing unwarranted conclusions from news articles based on zero evidence. Of course when LE came out to explain what the years of evidence showed actually did happen, it didn't square with their story at all. So at that point they immediately pivoted to argue coverup, because their half ass story could possibly be wrong.

That's the world we live in. Rush to judgment. I've figured it all out from my computer.

Since we don't have all the facts, are you suggesting we don't discuss it?

Snapolit1 · #4 05-10-2024, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

Since we don't have all the facts, are you suggesting we don't discuss it?

No, wasn't saying that.

Just saying don't make shit up that you don't know is true.

Cliff Bowman · #5 05-10-2024, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

No, wasn't saying that.

Just saying don't make shit up that you don't know is true.

Oh, the irony.

Exhibitman · #6 05-10-2024, 08:01 AM

With all the attention this theft is getting, I think there is a better than zero chance that the cards are already in a dumpster or at the bottom of Lake Erie.

Mark17 · #7 05-10-2024, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

With all the attention this theft is getting, I think there is a better than zero chance that the cards are already in a dumpster or at the bottom of Lake Erie.

I see what you're saying, the thief might be scared stiff.

On the other hand, how easy is it for someone, especially a thief, to throw away $2,000,000.00?

Republicaninmass · #8 05-10-2024, 07:25 AM

Supreme Court of message boards !

Cliff Bowman · #9 05-10-2024, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

For good or for bad, we live in a world where every story is a wild Netflix mystery to be solved, and every half baked idea or half ass speculation that someone concocts is dished out as stone cold fact. The idea of waiting for the actual facts to come out is a long gone quaint concept.

Was fighting with a few board members who figured out the whole Ohtani gambling situation days after it broke, based on nothing more than their filling in the blanks and drawing unwarranted conclusions from news articles based on zero evidence. Of course when LE came out to explain what the years of evidence showed actually did happen, it didn't square with their story at all. So at that point they immediately pivoted to argue coverup, because their half ass story could possibly be wrong.

That's the world we live in. Rush to judgment. I've figured it all out from my computer.

Hmmm, kinda reminds of something that had to do with bronze a couple of months ago.

Seven · #10 05-10-2024, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

For good or for bad, we live in a world where every story is a wild Netflix mystery to be solved, and every half baked idea or half ass speculation that someone concocts is dished out as stone cold fact. The idea of waiting for the actual facts to come out is a long gone quaint concept.

Was fighting with a few board members who figured out the whole Ohtani gambling situation days after it broke, based on nothing more than their filling in the blanks and drawing unwarranted conclusions from news articles based on zero evidence. Of course when LE came out to explain what the years of evidence showed actually did happen, it didn't square with their story at all. So at that point they immediately pivoted to argue coverup, because their half ass story could possibly be wrong.

That's the world we live in. Rush to judgment. I've figured it all out from my computer.

Very well said.

brunswickreeves · #11 05-10-2024, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanH3

Ryan, I'm hoping for the best for you. You've handled this situation way better than I would have. Good luck to you brother.

Completely agree; he & I had a nice PM yesterday and retain a good friendship. I clarified my post was in response to another in order to rebut its inference there was consignor/consignee wrongdoing. This terrible situation is indeed being handled with grace and class and hope all are made whole.

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