Memory Lane sold cards they didn't have per SCD

G1911 · #1 05-20-2024, 06:45 PM

Though I very strongly disagree with Peter here, I don't see how he and Lorewalker can possibly be called blowhards. A blowhard is a talkative and boastful braggart, nobody here is bragging in this thread (except for Republican's repeatedly stated class warfare) whatsoever. Talkative, that is true of, I suppose, every poster who has posted in it more than once.

A person is independent of an idea. I have probably disagreed with Carter more intensely than anyone else in this thread historically [as Clementefan does not appear to have any real position in most threads beyond attacking people he doesn't like, frequently in ways demonstrably false, making it difficult to really disagree with any point he has as there is no point], but we are on the 'same side' here because the idea or claim is independent of the user ID. I oft agree with people I normally disagree with, or even dislike, and frequently disagree with people I like. I believe I have only insulted Republican over his very explicit classism and religious discrimination expressed in this thread (I would assume he is trying to get it locked because criticizing Memory Lane and Cohen is clearly one hell of a taboo and is not actually this disgustingly prejudicial). I suppose calling Cohen a fraudster can be considered an insult, but as he was found guilty in court, went to prison for it, and not even his army of fanboys here is pretending he was innocent and wrongfully convicted it is hard to see how this is not a simple fact, albeit unpopular and undesirable to be observed.

Well, I have learned that up is down, that intentionally lying to thousands of bidders is not deceitful, and that selling things you do not have and cannot deliver is just fine (as long as you are rich, rule not applicable to poors on the BST). I ca not wait for the next lesson I will learn in Cardland to expand my limited knowledge.

Carter08 · #2 05-20-2024, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Though I very strongly disagree with Peter here, I don't see how he and Lorewalker can possibly be called blowhards. A blowhard is a talkative and boastful braggart, nobody here is bragging in this thread (except for Republican's repeatedly stated class warfare) whatsoever. Talkative, that is true of, I suppose, every poster who has posted in it more than once.

A person is independent of an idea. I have probably disagreed with Carter more intensely than anyone else in this thread historically [as Clementefan does not appear to have any real position in most threads beyond attacking people he doesn't like, frequently in ways demonstrably false, making it difficult to really disagree with any point he has as there is no point], but we are on the 'same side' here because the idea or claim is independent of the user ID. I oft agree with people I normally disagree with, or even dislike, and frequently disagree with people I like. I believe I have only insulted Republican over his very explicit classism and religious discrimination expressed in this thread (I would assume he is trying to get it locked because criticizing Memory Lane and Cohen is clearly one hell of a taboo and is not actually this disgustingly prejudicial). I suppose calling Cohen a fraudster can be considered an insult, but as he was found guilty in court, went to prison for it, and not even his army of fanboys here is pretending he was innocent and wrongfully convicted it is hard to see how this is not a simple fact, albeit unpopular and undesirable to be observed.

Well, I have learned that up is down, that intentionally lying to thousands of bidders is not deceitful, and that selling things you do not have and cannot deliver is just fine (as long as you are rich, rule not applicable to poors on the BST). I ca not wait for the next lesson I will learn in Cardland to expand my limited knowledge.

I like that this thread has brought us closer. True story!

Peter_Spaeth · #3 05-20-2024, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Though I very strongly disagree with Peter here, I don't see how he and Lorewalker can possibly be called blowhards. A blowhard is a talkative and boastful braggart, nobody here is bragging in this thread (except for Republican's repeatedly stated class warfare) whatsoever. Talkative, that is true of, I suppose, every poster who has posted in it more than once.

A person is independent of an idea. I have probably disagreed with Carter more intensely than anyone else in this thread historically [as Clementefan does not appear to have any real position in most threads beyond attacking people he doesn't like, frequently in ways demonstrably false, making it difficult to really disagree with any point he has as there is no point], but we are on the 'same side' here because the idea or claim is independent of the user ID. I oft agree with people I normally disagree with, or even dislike, and frequently disagree with people I like. I believe I have only insulted Republican over his very explicit classism and religious discrimination expressed in this thread (I would assume he is trying to get it locked because criticizing Memory Lane and Cohen is clearly one hell of a taboo and is not actually this disgustingly prejudicial). I suppose calling Cohen a fraudster can be considered an insult, but as he was found guilty in court, went to prison for it, and not even his army of fanboys here is pretending he was innocent and wrongfully convicted it is hard to see how this is not a simple fact, albeit unpopular and undesirable to be observed.

Well, I have learned that up is down, that intentionally lying to thousands of bidders is not deceitful, and that selling things you do not have and cannot deliver is just fine (as long as you are rich, rule not applicable to poors on the BST). I ca not wait for the next lesson I will learn in Cardland to expand my limited knowledge.

I often disagree with Greg but it's certainly not personal and I respect his intelligence and tenacity. And when you're having a discussion among people with strong views sometimes it takes some back and forth. That's the nature of a debate. We can't all be efficient in our posts like Trent, but then again when all you have to add is to demean people, it may not take many posts.

Mark17 · #4 05-20-2024, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to Emerson, little minds insist on a foolish consistency.

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I often disagree with Greg but it's certainly not personal and I respect his intelligence and tenacity. And when you're having a discussion among people with strong views sometimes it takes some back and forth. That's the nature of a debate. We can't all be efficient in our posts like Trent, but then again when all you have to add is to demean people, it may not take many posts.

Wait, can we pause this thread for a day or two? It's going to take my little mind some time to digest all this.

Republicaninmass · #5 05-21-2024, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I would argue that as long as nobody shill bid on the 54 lots that had been stolen, and nobody who was bidding had any knowledge the cards had been stolen, then I would see no reason to remove those sales from results. If each winner had the intention of paying for those lots at the hammer price, then those are valid prices. The consignors are being paid based on that. Just that the money is 100% not coming from the the winners.

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Originally Posted by G1911

Well, I have learned that up is down, that intentionally lying to thousands of bidders is not deceitful, and that selling things you do not have and cannot deliver is just fine (as long as you are rich, rule not applicable to poors on the BST). I ca not wait for the next lesson I will learn in Cardland to expand my limited knowledge.

Even you are capable of rational thought, but your opinion still doesn't supercede legal advice....or matter to anyone in your delusional cardland or otherwise.

Peoples opinions are not equal. Some are wrong ,as they don't coincide with facts.

We have now seen we have plenty of people who should be on a 5150 hold, welcome to express their opinions as fact.

bnorth · #6 05-21-2024, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Even you are capable of rational thought, but your opinion still doesn't supercede legal advice....or matter to anyone in your delusional cardland or otherwise.

Peoples opinions are not equal. Some are wrong ,as they don't coincide with facts.

We have now seen we have plenty of people who should be on a 5150 hold, welcome to express their opinions as fact.

LOL, see they returned.

G1911 · #7 05-21-2024, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Even you are capable of rational thought, but your opinion still doesn't supercede legal advice....or matter to anyone in your delusional cardland or otherwise.

I have yet to a single explanation for how these acts did not violate California consumer protection laws. A lawyer possibly telling a client to do X (is this the angle we've decided on? I notice the Memory Lane fanboys don't seem to bring up the insurance fiction anymore. Is this the now preferred reason?) does not mean they cannot be criticized or that it is actually legal.

My opinion doesn't really matter to anyone else, and neither does yours. No shit

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Peoples opinions are not equal. Some are wrong ,as they don't coincide with facts.

I am happy to see you've moved to make this argument on grounds of fact, instead of your previous grounds of open and blatant bigotry. That's a positive, at least. What fact have I ignored? Remember, there is a transcript.

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We have now seen we have plenty of people who should be on a 5150 hold, welcome to express their opinions as fact.

Who are these multiple people you are alleging is a danger to themselves or others or is gravely disabled and thus eligible for a 5150 hold?

parkplace33 · #8 05-21-2024, 09:12 AM

I for one love seeing opinions on this topic. We are over 800 replies, which I think puts it in the top 10 of Net54 posts.

I don't think this story is going away for a long, long time. Especially with the fate of the missing cards still to be determined.

Has anyone on this board asked ML for a response to all of this? Especially if have dealt with them in the past.

bnorth · #9 05-21-2024, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33

I for one love seeing opinions on this topic. We are over 800 replies, which I think puts it in the top 10 of Net54 posts.

I don't think this story is going away for a long, long time. Especially with the fate of the missing cards still to be determined.

Has anyone on this board asked ML for a response to all of this? Especially if have dealt with them in the past.

That would take all the fun out of making up silly stuff and arguing it as fact. Early on one of the few people that would really know what is going on posted but the fiction writers like to ignore it as it doesn't fit their make believe posts.

Republicaninmass · #10 05-21-2024, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

That would take all the fun out of making up silly stuff and arguing it as fact. Early on one of the few people that would really know what is going on posted but the fiction writers like to ignore it as it doesn't fit their make believe posts.

The wifi is out on the short bus. Expect posts soon.

How can a seller list an item "in the ebay vault" without posession of it. Inquiring minds want to know!

Yoda · #11 05-21-2024, 11:23 AM

I wonder if the FBI has put some kind of gag order on ML and GW+, which may be part of the reason there have been no public statements really since the theft, while they proceed with their investigations. It sure seems a long time since we have had any new info.

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