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Fandom0610 · #1 05-21-2024, 09:36 PM

Dick Sinovic is also on the ball. He was invited ONE single year (1954) to spring training with the Braves but was quickly sent down to play with the Toledo Sox. Ben Flowers and Guy Morton were the key players I researched. The Red Sox did not have Morton on their team or practicing with their team from Mid March all the way until September 1954. It would make no sense for Guy Morton to be on that ball anytime after March. The games I found were not played in North Carolina and Guy wouldn't of been a member of Boston. He would've been playing in the minors against other teams. Also just pulled up the Article dated April 11 1954. The article states this was their last and final game against eachother that spring.

Fandom0610 · #2 05-21-2024, 09:46 PM

Mel Parnell was a Boston Red Sox player from 1947-56. In 1954 he had a collar bone injury.

Fandom0610 · #3 05-22-2024, 07:13 AM

7 total games played between the Braves/Red Sox. April 11th was their last. Guy Morton was NOT playing with the Red Sox after the March 10th game. He was sent to the minors in Greensboro, NC. April 6th Yankees faced that Greensboro team and Morton was on their roster (Confirmed by newspaper article). Braves DID NOT play Greensboro during spring training nor did they play in North Carolina. The ONLY time Morton was playing against the Braves was March 10th.

March 10- Florida
April 6- Tennessee
April 7- West Virginia
April 8- Kentucky
April 9- milwaukee
April 10- Milwaukee
April 11- Milwaukee

SyrNy1960 · #4 05-22-2024, 07:29 AM

Research is one of my favorite things about collecting. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed it!

Fandom0610 · #5 05-22-2024, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Research is one of my favorite things about collecting. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed it!

I agree. Love doing research!

bigfanNY · #6 05-22-2024, 11:56 AM

I agree research is both fun and educational. But part of research is context. The Ball was originally part of a very large collection of balls put together by a collector who would travel to spring training and collect mostly rookies and prospects. I know this because when Sig Auctions sold the collection I bid on a few lots winning this ball and a few other items.
Many of the balls contained no star players because he wanted everyone on the roster anyone who collects autos knows it's the obscure guys that prove the most challenging this ball had a Henry Aaron. I owned a few Aaron Autographs but never a Henry. I fid some research and found both Red Sox and Braves on the ball. I later found that the Braves and Sox had played a 7 game series.

https://www.bdtonline.com/sports/bra...80a4b7f3a.html

So he had lots of opportunities to add to his ball. But my experience tells me that is is tough trying to get both teams as players from one team group together. It has been argued that the ball could ONLY be signed on one day March 10th... I would disagree as hanging around spring training you grab what you can when you can. If a game is going on you can get from 2 teams. But if you vist Red Sox camp on a non game day you can still add. And to me the definition of a spring training ball means signatures were added over the course of the spring. So maybe Morton was added on March 10th ...maybe.

Fandom0610 · #7 05-22-2024, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY

I agree research is both fun and educational. But part of research is context. The Ball was originally part of a very large collection of balls put together by a collector who would travel to spring training and collect mostly rookies and prospects. I know this because when Sig Auctions sold the collection I bid on a few lots winning this ball and a few other items.
Many of the balls contained no star players because he wanted everyone on the roster anyone who collects autos knows it's the obscure guys that prove the most challenging this ball had a Henry Aaron. I owned a few Aaron Autographs but never a Henry. I fid some research and found both Red Sox and Braves on the ball. I later found that the Braves and Sox had played a 7 game series.

https://www.bdtonline.com/sports/bra...80a4b7f3a.html

So he had lots of opportunities to add to his ball. But my experience tells me that is is tough trying to get both teams as players from one team group together. It has been argued that the ball could ONLY be signed on one day March 10th... I would disagree as hanging around spring training you grab what you can when you can. If a game is going on you can get from 2 teams. But if you vist Red Sox camp on a non game day you can still add. And to me the definition of a spring training ball means signatures were added over the course of the spring. So maybe Morton was added on March 10th ...maybe.

My point was Guy Morton was sent down to the minors after the March 10th game. He played for North Carolina. He was playing other teams while the Red Sox carried on and played major league teams. Ben Flowers, Henry Aaron, Guy Morton and dick Sinovic were all active on the roster during March 10th 1954. After that Ben flowers and Guy Morton were sent down to the minors. Your interpretation of what a spring training signed ball isn't written in stone. All these players were accessible March 10th as they all played together during that game, after that some players were sent down or continued on. PSA states this as " RED SOX VS BRAVES SPRING TRAINING " . To me that means a game against eachother during spring training

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