Harrison Butker graduation speech

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Two points. I think hatred towards gays, or at least severe prejudice, extends much deeper and further than you postulate here. It's not just some obscure little groups. My opinion.

Also, I don't disagree that in an ideal world it would be better to move past things like prejudice and ostracism and even abuse, but I think you may be overestimating the capacity of many people to do so. I blame the perpetrators, not the victims. And however minor in and of themselves, to bring it back to the original topic, speeches by public figures reinforcing an anti-gay message are, in my opinion, additive to the problem.

The major groups that are actually consequentially anti-gay are the ones we don't want to talk about, like Islam. No seriously significant or large group in America that the gay agenda wants to target is actually running around trying to put the gays into concentration camps like the far left has been claiming for eight years, or to criminalize them, or any seriously consequential policy at all. 71% of Americans apparently support gay marriage, and most of the remaining 29% are not arguing to do anything consequential to them at all, they just think marriage should not have been redefined to suit a lobby. By and large the split is now the advocates who want to make any dissenter shut up and those like me who are not having this argument of putting gays feelings over everyone else's speech rights.

I'm not blaming the victim in this scenario, I'm engaged with reality. You cannot possibly undo the past - you do not control what happens around you or oftentimes to you. What you have control of is how you respond to that which happens. We do not live in a perfect world, all of us have things happen that suck for us. We can get over them, or live in depressive misery forever. That's just reality. Getting over it is the healthy response to things. A person who does not have the capacity to get over things will live a miserable life regardless of their orientation. They will never be happy in any realistic scenario.

A kicker saying he disagrees with homosexuality and advocating absolutely no punishment or deprival of rights whatsoever is no different from pro-gay speeches, aside from the fact that one opinion is more popular than the other. It's a completely meaningless event, simply used as fodder for political bait. This shouldn't even be a headline at all, there are actual issues in the world that have actual consequences beyond protecting the feelings of incredibly sensitive people who nobody should be able to dissent.