Take Note, Ty Cobb Fans

[G1911]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I am objecting to you saying the Negro Leagues "weren't even attempting to compete as major leagues." This is a forum that is acting like this is the first time they heard about this and many seem outraged.

I think I missed the outrage part? Seems like people gave reasonable ideas for and against. I already wrote this was done in 2020.

Here is you objecting to discussion:

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

In any event, the addition of the Negro Leagues to the MLB statistical record was announced long ago, has already happened, and Net54 doesn't have any say in it. You can continue griping about it, but it's done. I for one am glad I can see stats of the Negro Leaguers in a convenient way, even if they are incomplete.

That a thing happened is not in dispute. People will express opinions for or against the topic at hand on a forum. We don't have to agree with everything that happens outside of our power.

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

But Negro Leaguers were trying to compete against Major Leaguers and sought out the competition with their white counterparts. And when they were granted such competition, they performed very well. Josh Gibson desperately wanted to show that he could dominate the white MLB and was crushed that he never got the chance to do so.

I have a very hard time seeing as how the Negro Leagues were thought of or acted as major leagues in that time. You seem to be choosing to recast what I actually said as a criticism that they could not compete with whites. I have very specifically stated the opposite multiple times. I have said nothing but praise for Gibson.


Here's what I actually said.

Originally Posted by G1911

They were high end, played similar schedules, and don't have the historical contradiction. The Negro Leagues were not leagues even attempting to compete as major leagues - they existed entirely because the Major Leagues had a terrible policy. Their entire existence was predicated on the fact that they were not major leagues and nobody really thought that they were; their quintessential purpose was that they were not major leagues - which is why they fell apart so fast when the real majors finally adopted a meritocracy. .

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by G1911

I think I missed the outrage part? Seems like people gave reasonable ideas for and against. I already wrote this was done in 2020.

Look no further than:

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Woke, revisionist bullshit.

But history evolves. We know that Doubleday did not, in fact, invent baseball.

Yes, but Ty Cobb played Major League baseball. Josh Gibson did not. So there's that.

Do I resepct Gibson's ability? You'd better believe it! But he didn't play against MLB players in official games. Sorry. Negro League baseball is NOT Major League baseball and never will be to me.

If all of these updates truly make any sense, then I demand that Sadaharu Oh be considered the all-time MLB HR leader. Japanese players couldn't help that they played on another continent! It wasn't their fault! It would be wrong to exclude anybody for any reason!

I can't wait for the updated versions of all other aspects of history!