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Old 06-05-2024, 01:18 AM
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Default Baltimore Orioles 1970s Binder

Day 156 – 5 June 2024
I recently found this binder from the early 1970s. The binder is bright orange and celebrates the 1966 and 1970 WS Champions. I really enjoy the Coo Coo Bird.
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Old 06-06-2024, 09:53 AM
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Day 157 – 6 June 2024
Today I am showing you a few of my 1975 Clarance Mengler Baseball’s Best 3x5 inch unlicensed post cards for signatures. This is a 125 card set that the MLBPA went after Mr. Mengler as the cards were not sanctioned by the MLB. Mengler created these cards for signatures but ran into legal challenges by the MLB so he stood down with the set. MLBPA was upset with other companies, too, such as TCMA. I believe he created as many as 125 cards each in a set and sold 100 sets and kept 25 sets for himself. I have Frank Robinson with the Indians. Included in the first picture is also McNally with the Expos but this one is an original hand drawn in pencil by Mr. Mengler’s artis, Mr. Neil Patterson. At the time when the set was created, Patterson was a student at a Chicago Art School. The 1st picture shows Brooks, Blair and Singleton are are part of the set but not originals. You can tell if the card is an original if stamped on the back like the second picture. The next picture are originals of Grich, Singleton, May, Belanger and Blair. These are part of the set but original hand drawn. The Bumbry at the top left is not part of the set. Mr. Mengler told me he planned another set in 1976 but he did not get to it based on the MLBPA legal challenge. The last picture shows these are originals with the markings on the back. I had several conversations with Mr. Mengler and was able to get these originals and the insights above. He sent me a photo copy of an article published about his sets in 1975. More on this set tomorrow.
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Old 06-06-2024, 11:18 AM
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Never seen those before Charles, cool!
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Clint, it is a pretty cool set. Hard to complete. Thanks!
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Old 06-07-2024, 01:29 AM
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Default Mengler 1975 Originals - Brooks Robinson and Jim Palmer

Day 158 – 7 June 2024
Like yesterday, I am showing you two more 1975 Clarance Mengler (Artist Neil Patterson) Baseball’s Best 3x5 inch unlicensed post cards for signature but these two are “originals” of Brooks and Palmer.” I was very excited to find these and work a deal with Mr. Mengler. Took a lot of effort, but had to have them and a deal was struck. I may have the Brooks original and copy framed together for display.
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Old 06-08-2024, 07:32 AM
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Day 159 – 8 June 2024
Today I am showing some pins I found recently. The larger one at the top is from the 1966 WS. I have been looking for this one for a while but it was too expensive. I lucked into this one. The bottom right one from 1973 is unique. I have not seen this one before. The lower left white Johnny Oates button is unique. Never saw this one before. Oates played with the Orioles in 1970 and 1972. He coached with the Orioles in 1989-1991 and then managed the Orioles in 1991 – 1994.
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Old 06-08-2024, 08:18 AM
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Day 157 – 6 June 2024
Today I am showing you a few of my 1975 Clarance Mengler Baseball’s Best 3x5 inch unlicensed post cards for signatures. This is a 125 card set that the MLBPA went after Mr. Mengler as the cards were not sanctioned by the MLB. Mengler created these cards for signatures but ran into legal challenges by the MLB so he stood down with the set. MLBPA was upset with other companies, too, such as TCMA. I believe he created as many as 125 cards each in a set and sold 100 sets and kept 25 sets for himself. I have Frank Robinson with the Indians. Included in the first picture is also McNally with the Expos but this one is an original hand drawn in pencil by Mr. Mengler’s artis, Mr. Neil Patterson. At the time when the set was created, Patterson was a student at a Chicago Art School. The 1st picture shows Brooks, Blair and Singleton are are part of the set but not originals. You can tell if the card is an original if stamped on the back like the second picture. The next picture are originals of Grich, Singleton, May, Belanger and Blair. These are part of the set but original hand drawn. The Bumbry at the top left is not part of the set. Mr. Mengler told me he planned another set in 1976 but he did not get to it based on the MLBPA legal challenge. The last picture shows these are originals with the markings on the back. I had several conversations with Mr. Mengler and was able to get these originals and the insights above. He sent me a photo copy of an article published about his sets in 1975. More on this set tomorrow.
There is some good information here, but I am confused by how you are defining original. I have read this several times and I think this is how it parses.
  1. There are hand drawn originals. These would be the 1/1s you show in a different post.
  2. Original printed versions, which would be identified by the print mark on the back.
  3. Not originals, which lack the print mark on the back.

With the history of only having produced 125 sets before stopping, I am assuming these 125 are part of "#2 - Original printed versions". If that is true, I don't understand what "#3 - Not originals" are. If he stopped printing, then the "not originals" would be reproductions printed at a later time?

I also don't understand what you meant by the Bumbry not being part of the set. Is it a proof that was created but not part of the set that was eventually printed?

Thanks in advance for any clarity here. I still lack one of these for my Paul Blair player collection and when I see one I want to be sure I understand what I am looking at.
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