Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

vintagerookies51 · #1 07-08-2024, 01:18 PM

Obviously very unfortunate and I hope the cards are recovered, thieves are punished, etc...

But after the Memory Lane incident and now this, is it that common to just deal with this amount of $$ so carelessly? Hindsight is 20/20, but if I'm carrying around anything close to that amount of value, I'm hiding an AirTag in it at the very least.

jayshum · #2 07-08-2024, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagerookies51

Obviously very unfortunate and I hope the cards are recovered, thieves are punished, etc...

But after the Memory Lane incident and now this, is it that common to just deal with this amount of $$ so carelessly? Hindsight is 20/20, but if I'm carrying around anything close to that amount of value, I'm hiding an AirTag in it at the very least.

An AirTag only helps if the thief keeps the cards in the original case. Since it looks like these guys had this planned out, there's a reasonable chance that soon after getting out of the hall, they moved the cards into something else and ditched the original case and any AirTag it might have had in it.

brunswickreeves · #3 07-08-2024, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

An AirTag only helps if the thief keeps the cards in the original case. Since it looks like these guys had this planned out, there's a reasonable chance that soon after getting out of the hall, they moved the cards into something else and ditched the original case and any AirTag it might have had in it.

I recommended using Air Tags back in post #52 and to expand on the rationale, a dealer would be able to identify its last location, enabling review of surveillance video in proximity (eg from exterior of a bank/store/traffic light) to ID a car or individuals in it. It would also put authorities on a directional path for higher probable recovery.

jayshum · #4 07-08-2024, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brunswickreeves

I recommended using Air Tags back in post #52 and to expand on the rationale, a dealer would be able to identify its last location, enabling review of surveillance video in proximity (eg from exterior of a bank/store/traffic light) to ID a car or individuals in it. It would also put authorities on a directional path for higher probable recovery.

I'm not saying AirTags are a bad idea, it's just that they only work for as long as they are with the stolen items which may not be very long if the thief is smart enough to realize they may be there. Having them would certainly be potentially better than not having them, but there's no guarantee they will provide as much information as you are suggesting.

brian1961 · #5 07-08-2024, 01:56 PM

At this point, I think some of you are giving too much advice to the crook(s).

Down the way, I think a 21st (and a half?!?) century primer for dealers and collectors taking their collection to a show would be beneficial, for sure.

--- Brian Powell

vintagerookies51 · #6 07-08-2024, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

I'm not saying AirTags are a bad idea, it's just that they only work for as long as they are with the stolen items which may not be very long if the thief is smart enough to realize they may be there. Having them would certainly be potentially better than not having them, but there's no guarantee they will provide as much information as you are suggesting.

That's why I said "at the very least". I agree it probably wouldn't be enough and it would probably be wise to hire more stringent security or something.

Eric72 · #7 07-08-2024, 01:51 PM

How long before the TPGs embed air tags (or RFID, etc.) in their slabs?

Eric72 · #8 07-08-2024, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72

How long before the TPGs embed air tags (or RFID, etc.) in their slabs?

�and make sure thieves can�t render them useless with a strong magnet?

raulus · #9 07-08-2024, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72

How long before the TPGs embed air tags (or RFID, etc.) in their slabs?

Something I learned recently with airtags is that they only update their position if an iPhone with bluetooth turned on gets close enough to them for long enough for them to phone the old folks' home in Cupertino to register their position.

So for a tag that's in a remote location, or that is moving quickly like on a freeway, its location won't update very often, if at all.

refz · #10 07-08-2024, 03:26 PM

I feel this theft was cased via a lurker or possible someone known on the FB groups. It�s a sad scenario because I believe this is what Mr Ash does for a living full time (correct me if I�m wrong ) but show boating those high end cards is very sketchy but a must to keep everything moving I guess. His collection was more or less like an auction house than a typical dealers case.

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