Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How do you propose he contact 11,000 pawn shops?

Same way you eat an elephant. One bite at a time.

But yeah, calling 11k shops isn't feasible. The best thing is to continually show as much of these guys faces as possible. Someone will most assuredly see these pics and know one of the perps, at least.

[jingram058]

With their faces all over, sooner or later they will get caught. The investigation will be silent in tracking these guys, as it should be. My guess is it won't take long. Remember the idiot at the hotel we were just talking about a few weeks ago? I just hope they haven't ruined the cards.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Leon

Same way you eat an elephant. One bite at a time.

But yeah, calling 11k shops isn't feasible. The best thing is to continually show as much of these guys faces as possible. Someone will most assuredly see these pics and know one of the perps, at least.

I’d be really stunned if these jerks aren’t locked up by Friday. Someone knows them and will relish the opportunity to make their lives unpleasant. Could be an ex-wife, could be the neighbor you have been fighting with over a parking spot, could be the guy in high school you never paid back for beers. Exactly a zero chance they get away with this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I’d be really stunned if these jerks aren’t locked up by Friday. Someone knows them and will relish the opportunity to make their lives unpleasant. Could be an ex-wife, could be the neighbor you have been fighting with over a parking spot, could be the guy in high school you never paid back for beers. Exactly a zero chance they get away with this.

What if they're in Mexico by now?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What if they're in Mexico by now?

Is there a big market for high value baseball cards in Mexico?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Is there a big market for high value baseball cards in Mexico?

The cards could be with an accomplice, they could be anywhere.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The cards could be with an accomplice, they could be anywhere.

Entirely possible that they get these guys in custody before the cards are located. Assume LE is watching them. Not good when a clear shot of you committing a felony in on the national news.

[Snapolit1]

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Entirely possible that they get these guys in custody before the cards are located. Assume LE is watching them. Not good when a clear shot of you committing a felony in on the national news.

What's puzzling is that assuming some planning went into this operation and these were not amateurs on a whim, as the coordination and clear targeting suggest, you would think these guys also had to know they would be on surveillance video.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What if they're in Mexico by now?

After the memory lane recovery, the armchair cops think it is simple to find stolen goods "by Friday" . I wonder what the odds are of any goods being recovered? Granted, these are pretty High profile, but I'd imagine less than 1% of stuff is ever found.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

After the memory lane recovery, the armchair cops think it is simple to find stolen goods "by Friday" . I wonder what the odds are of any goods being recovered? Granted, these are pretty High profile, but I'd imagine less than 1% of stuff is ever found.

It depends if they planned for phase 2 as carefully as phase 1.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It depends if they planned for phase 2 as carefully as phase 1.

Have you personally seen any proof of co-conspirators in the footage? I watched a few of the videos and saw one guy grab a case and walk out. If I was shown in the photos. Aside from Huge-o (sic) . I'd come out and say I had nothing to do with it....quickly as possible.

[sb1]

The three guys distracting the three employees are working in conjunction with the bag man. They have been seen on film scouting out the booth all day long, even going as far as changing clothes several times so as to appear to be different individuals. I would suspect while this was all going down they had one or two people stationed as lookouts, maybe at exits and/or even vehicles waiting close by outside. This was not a spurt of the moment grab and go, they planned this out well in advance from all signs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Have you personally seen any proof of co-conspirators in the footage? I watched a few of the videos and saw one guy grab a case and walk out. If I was shown in the photos. Aside from Huge-o (sic) . I'd come out and say I had nothing to do with it....quickly as possible.

There is one video where it's pretty clear two other guys are involved distracting Ashish's workers.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

After the memory lane recovery, the armchair cops think it is simple to find stolen goods "by Friday" . I wonder what the odds are of any goods being recovered? Granted, these are pretty High profile, but I'd imagine less than 1% of stuff is ever found.

One member of the gang will come to Jesus pretty quickly and realize they are not going to live happily ever after and will go to the authorities to hopefully save his hide to whatever extent possible.

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

One member of the gang will come to Jesus pretty quickly and realize they are not going to live happily ever after and will go to the authorities to hopefully save his hide to whatever extent possible.

Bingo. There are too many witnesses, security pictures, and conspirators/thieves. It is only a matter of time before the Prisoner's Dilemma plays out.

[Hankphenom]

[QUOTE=Leon;2446598]Same way you eat an elephant. One bite at a time. /QUOTE] Don't tell me, tastes like chicken?

[Bpm0014]

As a cop, the best advice I could give would be to plaster their pictures over the local news. Surely someone who watched the news knows one of them. And I would repeat the process in another couple days or so...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

As a cop, the best advice I could give would be to plaster their pictures over the local news. Surely someone who watched the news knows one of them. And I would repeat the process in another couple days or so...

It's getting a lot of local news air time. Last night one of the major channels did a whole segment on it. And this kind of stuff is on other local channels too..

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas...heft-trackdown

[Bpm0014]

It's getting a lot of local news air time.

Excellent

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Leon

It's getting a lot of local news air time. Last night one of the major channels did a whole segment on it. And this kind of stuff is on other local channels too..

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas...heft-trackdown

For those who questioned how seriously this was being taken by law enforcement, this was in the article:

"The Dallas FBI is assisting Allen Police with the investigation because it is considered a federal crime."

[calvindog]

This is a moronic crime. The chances of the perps being caught has got to be very close if not 100%.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This is a moronic crime. The chances of the perps being caught has got to be very close if not 100%.

I agree! The video of the theft is amazing.

[Yoda]

In insurance lingo, this was a theft rather than a robbery, where violence or threats violence are directed at the policyholder. The policy would be some type of all risk personal property floater, perhaps manuscript to fit Ash's needs, subject to normal policy exclusions, eg. war nuclear etc. It should respond and pay his claim less any deductible. But, as Steve pointed out, if the policy is endorsed by stating security must be on the floor during setup and breakdown, then there might be a problem.
You can bet that the insurer has top knot loss adjusters working with the police or alone to solve this tragedy.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This is a moronic crime. The chances of the perps being caught has got to be very close if not 100%.

I agree I just hope it is sooner than later.