Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Peter_Spaeth]

Ok, this won't go over well with most, but so it goes. Of course, everyone here feels horribly for Ashish, hates the thieves, and wants nothing more than that they be caught and the cards recovered. That all goes without saying.

But nobody has died here, this isn't a funeral, I don't see why people have to tiptoe delicately and avoid talking about how this happened. It's human nature to ask questions when stuff happens. And it seems to me most of the comments are fair. I'm not great with video but as far as I can tell a case with a million dollars or more of cards was just sitting down at the far end of a booth with multiple tables, no one was anywhere close to it even before the distractor guys came along. Obviously hindsight is 20 20, but I think the comments have been fair and not malicious or disrespectful in any way.

[Leon]

No, no one died. It could have been worse (in the big picture).

It happened because trained, professional thieves exploited a human mistake. That is it. Now, the focus should be on the thiefs. But that is just my opinion and this is a chatboard.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ok, this won't go over well with most, but so it goes. Of course, everyone here feels horribly for Ashish, hates the thieves, and wants nothing more than that they be caught and the cards recovered. That all goes without saying.

But nobody has died here, this isn't a funeral, I don't see why people have to tiptoe delicately and avoid talking about how this happened. It's human nature to ask questions when stuff happens. And it seems to me most of the comments are fair. I'm not great with video but as far as I can tell a case with a million dollars or more of cards was just sitting down at the far end of a booth with multiple tables, no one was anywhere close to it even before the distractor guys came along. Obviously hindsight is 20 20, but I think the comments have been fair and not malicious or disrespectful in any way.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's not mutually exclusive. One can focus on the thieves (whatever that means?) and still discuss how this happened and can be prevented.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not mutually exclusive. One can focus on the thieves (whatever that means?) and still discuss how this happened and can be prevented.

The idea that a crime should be discussed but without any discussion of how it happened or why or any practical lessons that can be learned is a little amusing. These things are normal matters of discussion for a crime in any other hobby or place. The list of things collectors don’t want anyone to discuss is just too long to keep up with.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by G1911

The idea that a crime should be discussed but without any discussion of how it happened or why or any practical lessons that can be learned is a little amusing. These things are normal matters of discussion for a crime in any other hobby or place. The list of things collectors don’t want anyone to discuss is just too long to keep up with.

Seems everything gets discussed. You should be fine.
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[G1911]

Originally Posted by Leon

Seems everything gets discussed. You should be fine.
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Hence why I said "don't want to be discussed" instead of "censor from discussion".

[tjisonline]

Dr Jim and Rich talking about the robbery

https://youtu.be/s8H682uThMs?si=BH41uHZ8gE-g9W07

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not mutually exclusive. One can focus on the thieves (whatever that means?) and still discuss how this happened and can be prevented.

I guess focus on the thieves means to give more attention to them than the reason it happened. Both inevitably get discussed, nothing wrong with that. But it was a human mistake, that is how it happened. Someone should have been with the cards all of the time. It's not rocket science.
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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

I guess focus on the thieves means to give more attention to them than the reason it happened. Both inevitably get discussed, nothing wrong with that. But it was a human mistake, that is how it happened. Someone should have been with the cards all of the time. It's not rocket science.
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Right, but people who say that are getting lambasted for being out of line and somehow insensitive.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not mutually exclusive. One can focus on the thieves (whatever that means?) and still discuss how this happened and can be prevented.

Agree...

A discussion of how the theft could better have been prevented potentially helps future crimes from ever happening. If we don't learn from our actions (and evolve accordingly), we are prone to recurring disasters. I fail to see how such a discussion is a bad thing.

We all want these criminals caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But doesn't it also make sense to do whatever we can to disarm them moving forward?