Psa theft ransom

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

A charge back isn't a legal proceeding as far as I know. Just because the credit card company found in your favor doesn't mean the vendor that got charged back has to agree with them. In their opinion you still owe them and I doubt there's much you can do about it.

[Django7975]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

A charge back isn't a legal proceeding as far as I know. Just because the credit card company found in your favor doesn't mean the vendor that got charged back has to agree with them. In their opinion you still owe them and I doubt there's much you can do about it.

I agree. But theft of property from an item acquired from eBay is something I can do something about. I will be making a police report stating theft and then I will send a copy of the police report along with an ad litem notice giving them a time frame to mail me back my property. Then I’ll have to press charges if they can’t do the right thing.


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[raulus]

Originally Posted by Django7975

I agree. But theft of property awaited from eBay, is something I can do something about. I will be making a police report stating theft and then I will send a copy of the police report along with an ad litem notice giving them a time frame to mail me back my property. Then I’ll have to press charges if they can’t do the right thing.


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Good luck!

Let us know how it goes.

It is instructive that apparently the eBay vault is now serving as a debt collector for all of the various parties under the same corporate umbrella. Not that we needed another reason to be wary of such vaults, but this certainly doesn't help to recommend it.

[Django7975]

Originally Posted by raulus

Good luck!

Let us know how it goes.

It is instructive that apparently the eBay vault is now serving as a debt collector for all of the various parties under the same corporate umbrella. Not that we needed another reason to be wary of such vaults, but this certainly doesn't help to recommend it.

Thank you.

I really appreciate all the supportive comments and the very helpful pm I received. This is what makes this the best community in the hobby. I appreciate all of you.

David


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[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Django7975

I agree. But theft of property from an item acquired from eBay is something I can do something about. I will be making a police report stating theft and then I will send a copy of the police report along with an ad litem notice giving them a time frame to mail me back my property. Then I’ll have to press charges if they can’t do the right thing.


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I'm not getting the theft angle. You said you erroneously placed it in the vault. "I purchased the card in question in April of 2024 and erroneously placed it in the vault." That's not theft. Then the vault changed hands as part of a business deal, but nobody stole your card.

[Django7975]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I'm not getting the theft angle. You said you erroneously placed it in the vault. "I purchased the card in question in April of 2024 and erroneously placed it in the vault." That's not theft. Then the vault changed hands as part of a business deal, but nobody stole your card.

I have requested numerous times for my card to be shipped to me. They won’t ship me my card. They took my property in a deal they made with someone else and are now refusing to send me my property. This is the definition of theft. To take someone’s property without their consent and refuse to return it.


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[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I'm not getting the theft angle. You said you erroneously placed it in the vault. "I purchased the card in question in April of 2024 and erroneously placed it in the vault." That's not theft. Then the vault changed hands as part of a business deal, but nobody stole your card.

Suppose you have a dispute over a business deal, where you and a former partner each think he is owed $50,000 from the other. There's your side of the story, and his. The ongoing dispute lasts a few years without resolution.

Meanwhile, in an unrelated matter, you take your BMW to your local mechanic for an oil change. And then, surprise, your former partner buys that mechanic shop, and now holds your BMW hostage. Either capitulate on the other, unrelated dispute, or you don't get your car back.

Is that legal, fair, ethical?

[doug.goodman]

Still wondering how much they claim you owe them?

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Still wondering how much they claim you owe them?

The email image in the first post shows $736. I think that’s the amount from the chargeback that they are looking to recover, as I read it.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

The email image in the first post shows $736. I think that’s the amount from the chargeback that they are looking to recover, as I read it.

Thank you, I thought the OP made reference to a $15 discrepancy, so I was thinking this whole conversation and potential police report (which jurisdiction would you file in?) was regarding $15.

[Django7975]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Still wondering how much they claim you owe them?

Customer #:
Order #: PSI21318609_WSO408305
Submission #: 408305
Amount: $736.00
Chargeback Date: 8/22/2019

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I'm not getting the theft angle. You said you erroneously placed it in the vault. "I purchased the card in question in April of 2024 and erroneously placed it in the vault." That's not theft. Then the vault changed hands as part of a business deal, but nobody stole your card.

It will be interesting to see if the OP can convince the police to file a report of theft for him or if they tell him it's a business issue he needs to work out with them. Plenty of lawyers on the board but I don't think any have offered their opinion on this.

[Moonlight Graham]

I'm a little confused from the opening post. The first line of the email states PSA/DNA customer David Thompson. But in the text it shows an order for PCGS. Anyway, David I think that you have to prove that PSA did not do what you paid them to do. Also, PSA did not take your card, you sent it to them-eBay Vault. After it's all said and done, it might just be easier to pay PSA what they say you owe them and not to business with them anymore. Seems like a difficult road ahead but good luck.

Joe K

[Django7975]

Originally Posted by Moonlight Graham

I'm a little confused from the opening post. The first line of the email states PSA/DNA customer David Thompson. But in the text it shows an order for PCGS. Anyway, David I think that you have to prove that PSA did not do what you paid them to do. Also, PSA did not take your card, you sent it to them-eBay Vault. After it's all said and done, it might just be easier to pay PSA what they say you owe them and not to business with them anymore. Seems like a difficult road ahead but good luck.

Joe K

Yes very confusing. Tanika is the shilock calling my 65 year old mother from PCGS trying to collect this debt from 5 years ago all of a sudden after I requested my card by email.


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