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Old 07-17-2024, 03:29 PM
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Red flag would be that you got it for $5.
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Old 07-17-2024, 06:06 PM
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Red flag would be that you got it for $5.
This was the same auction where I have gotten countless real deal autos, Al Simmons team signed red sox for $7, Hank Aaron for $3, and many more. Not to mention the probably 1/4 million in stuff I have sold that I have won at the same auction over the last 15 years of going every week. So it would not have surprised me to get them so cheap.
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Old 07-17-2024, 08:33 PM
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This was the same auction where I have gotten countless real deal autos, Al Simmons team signed red sox for $7, Hank Aaron for $3, and many more. Not to mention the probably 1/4 million in stuff I have sold that I have won at the same auction over the last 15 years of going every week. So it would not have surprised me to get them so cheap.
If you have gotten some great deals there, then it definitely makes sense to take a flier like this. Hopefully the next round is better.
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Old 07-17-2024, 11:47 PM
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If you have gotten some great deals there, then it definitely makes sense to take a flier like this. Hopefully the next round is better.
They are supposed to be getting allot more in, and I will be there
There were tons of cards but nothing pre 1978 and I just can't wrap my head around that much junk and pick out the goods. I looked for jersy cards and stuff but found none, there were some slabbed ones that used to be expensive in the 90's. Personally I think the photo is probably too good to be true but there are some out there that passed psa authentication and sold for around $500. I think the ball is legit though. It is a sloppy auto but my gut tells me it is legit for that reason and it has age to it (exactly like I like my balls) lol. I'm not the type of person to try to dupe people but I'm pretty sure I can get at least $100 off the photo and somebody can take a chance. I see plenty of the same photo selling that even to my untrained eyes are forgeries, considering I can find at least 10 examples of each auto that are identical.

The main reason why I don't like the photo is the fact that the sigs do not look felt tipped, they are too solid also the same photo seems to have many fakes floating around. I am kind of wondering though, how old this "fake" is, from the looks of the photo it looks original when it was printed in 1986, looks to have some age to it. The obvious fakes to even my eyes are not on photo paper and even lack the copyright, the ones that generally sell for between $30-$125. Apparently these "photos" came in three sizes, 28x22 & 10x8 & 11x13. I would be interested in knowing why the others think it is no good as well other than the fact it was had for $5.

Here is one that passed inspection, purportedly and sold for $600.

https://showpiecessports.com/collect...o-with-jsa-coa

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Old 07-18-2024, 01:07 AM
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The Mantle and Mays signatures look pretty good to me. Here is my Mike Baker authenticated 8X10 glossy photo of them for comparison.
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Old 07-19-2024, 10:30 PM
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I'm going to send both of these into psa/dna and wish for the best. I'll let you all know how it goes.
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Old 07-20-2024, 07:50 AM
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I'm so glad I don't collect autographs.
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Old 07-21-2024, 03:33 PM
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The Mantle and Mays signatures look pretty good to me. Here is my Mike Baker authenticated 8X10 glossy photo of them for comparison.
you know better Rob, LOL...

To the OP,

From the Fake Mike Baker Collection. We haven't had to roll that one out for quite a while. Not as good as the "Pork chop finger pointing version" from the same wonderful collection.

Why does the chimpanzee want to waste 100 doll hairs when they are clearly fake? How about studying Mantle for a few weeks and coming to your own EASY decision. Stop it already.
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Old 08-12-2024, 08:10 AM
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The Mantle and Mays signatures look pretty good to me. Here is my Mike Baker authenticated 8X10 glossy photo of them for comparison.
FYI, This is a forgery too.
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Old 08-12-2024, 10:01 AM
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If you really need a detailed explanation on why the original photo is fake (I suspect the OP does not actually care and will try to resell this trash regardless), there are a couple of easy tells, including:

1. The 'a' in Mantle has an open loop which authentic signatures never have.

2. The Snider signature is incredibly shaky and slow - you can see where the forger stopped and started (he was probably inexperienced with imitating Snider).

3. The Mays is a style employed commonly by forgers and doesn't match the style of signature Mr. Mays commonly used in the 90s when this would have been signed. Also, it would have been somewhat unusual for Mays to stack his first and last names on a photo instead of signing in a straight line, that style is more common on cards and items with limited space.

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