Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

Peter_Spaeth · #1 07-18-2024, 08:21 PM

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What’s the cartel going to do with them?

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Search the archives for Copperfield. I don't know if the FBI finally busted his ring, but he ran a multimillion dollar fake slab operation for years aimed at the US market. There could easily be an equivalent who would find ways to sell these cards into the US or globally. Speculating of course, but don't see why not.

chalupacollects · #2 07-18-2024, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Search the archives for Copperfield. I don't know if the FBI finally busted his ring, but he ran a multimillion dollar fake slab operation for years aimed at the US market. There could easily be an equivalent who would find ways to sell these cards into the US or globally. Speculating of course, but don't see why not.

Ehh think it would be small potatoes from them. They making billions from drugs through the border and human trafficking�

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Peter_Spaeth · #3 07-18-2024, 10:11 PM

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Ehh think it would be small potatoes from them. They making billions from drugs through the border and human trafficking�

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Smaller crime ring?

chalupacollects · #4 07-19-2024, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Smaller crime ring?

That would you be more fitting.

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Casey2296 · #5 07-20-2024, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Smaller crime ring?

They looked pretty tall to me.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 07-20-2024, 05:55 PM

Perhaps because there is nothing at all funny about this theft, the attempts at humor in this thread are uniformly falling flat.

Carter08 · #7 07-20-2024, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Perhaps because there is nothing at all funny about this theft, the attempts at humor in this thread are uniformly falling flat.

Might be going a little too far. Social threads going into comedic territory is not unusual, human condition and all that.

Snowman · #8 07-21-2024, 12:45 PM

Yes, he had several big cards on consignment in the lot that was stolen.

babraham · #9 07-20-2024, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296

They looked pretty tall to me.

skelly · #10 07-20-2024, 08:48 PM

Was this dealer planning on vending at the National? If so, do you just bring your lesser / other inventory, or do you scrap the event? Did he own all the cards that were taken? Is it possible some were owned by other people and he was selling them on consignment?

CardPadre · #11 07-20-2024, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skelly

Was this dealer planning on vending at the National? If so, do you just bring your lesser / other inventory, or do you scrap the event? Did he own all the cards that were taken? Is it possible some were owned by other people and he was selling them on consignment?

Saw a post yesterday that he will still be at the National. Probably some lesser inventory, not everything of his was taken. Don�t know for sure about consignments, but that�s not the vibe I get from his operation, so don�t think so.

Leon · #12 07-19-2024, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Search the archives for Copperfield. I don't know if the FBI finally busted his ring, but he ran a multimillion dollar fake slab operation for years aimed at the US market. There could easily be an equivalent who would find ways to sell these cards into the US or globally. Speculating of course, but don't see why not.

I spoke to that guy several times on the phone. He laughed at law enforcement from his Mexico residence.
Totally weird. One time I tried to conference-in the Secret Service (or DHS, I forget), but it didn't work.

bbcard1 · #13 07-19-2024, 09:18 AM

I think we can discard the rich collector funding the operation theory. Those were terrific cards, but are really not scarce. You can buy most any of them any day...just need the funds.

Peter_Spaeth · #14 07-19-2024, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I spoke to that guy several times on the phone. He laughed at law enforcement from his Mexico residence.
Totally weird. One time I tried to conference-in the Secret Service (or DHS, I forget), but it didn't work.

As I recall they busted one of his "mules" out of Denver a couple of years back, but not sure if they ever stopped him entirely. Doubtless a lot of his cards are out there in the hands of collectors. I personally dealt with one where PSA's reaction was very disturbing. A board member I was helping had bought a PSA 9 Ryan RC out of one of the major auctions. I can't recall how, but it came to his attention that there was another Ryan 9 with the SAME cert in an older slab that had been sold by ML years before. He sent the card to PSA, with the idea being that they would confirm it was bad so he could get a refund from the house. Guess what? They claimed it was a clerical error and put the card into a new holder with a new cert.

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