Pre-War Players Who Were Incredible Athletes - Non-HOFers

packs · #1 07-22-2024, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Horse can't corner those 90 degree corners. If you had to stay in the base paths I could probably beat a formula one car, that doesn't make me faster.

Also your statement makes no sense, if he was in the lead how could the rider get into his path???

I relayed a story from Hans Lobert, not my own story. If you're running and a horse is next to you and wants your space, aren't you going to slow down and let them take the lead? The alternative is being run over.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #2 07-23-2024, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I relayed a story from Hans Lobert, not my own story. If you're running and a horse is next to you and wants your space, aren't you going to slow down and let them take the lead? The alternative is being run over.

If the horse is next to you, you're not in the lead.

z28jd · #3 07-23-2024, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

If the horse is next to you, you're not in the lead.

Lobert's version of the story is that he was in the lead rounding second base and the horse cut the base inside the bag and went into his path briefly, then passed him about five feet before the finish line to win by a nose. So it seems true that he was winning and the horse interfered (at second base), then they were tied at third base, before the horse won the race from third-home.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #4 07-23-2024, 09:13 PM

if the horse was within the base paths, just inside of Lobert rounding second, and therefore not cheating, then logically the horse was in the lead at that point.

Logically speaking a horse cannot get into the path of someone who is in front of him.

Maybe Lobert managed to pass the horse back again on the way to third and around the bag, but the account simply doesn't make a ton of sense.

z28jd · #5 07-24-2024, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

if the horse was within the base paths, just inside of Lobert rounding second, and therefore not cheating, then logically the horse was in the lead at that point.

Logically speaking a horse cannot get into the path of someone who is in front of him.

Maybe Lobert managed to pass the horse back again on the way to third and around the bag, but the account simply doesn't make a ton of sense.

Lobert touched second base and rounded the bag normally. The rider steered the horse to the home plate side of the bag instead, not touching the bag, but going into Lobert�s path as the rider then started cutting towards third base. It makes a lot of sense if someone behind you in a race doesn�t take the same path that they could interfere with you when you are in the lead. I�m just passing along a detailed account of what happened because I wanted to know after seeing the back and forth. Everything he says is plausible, including the horse out-sprinting him from third to home. Lobert said afterwards that it was too dangerous to try again

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