Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

The court overturning rulings based on things that are not actually in the Constitution at all has nothing to do with a claim the court is or will overturn things that are in the Constitution, which this court has not been doing. Ex post facto is Article 1, Section 9, clause 3.

I am currently litigating several cases where SOLs have been removed or their dates have been expanded. Sorry.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I am currently litigating several cases where SOLs have been removed or their dates have been expanded. Sorry.

Prospectively though, no?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Prospectively though, no?

100 percent not prospectively. It’s in the civil context is the wiggle room for you but I don’t see it as a stretch that the same could happen in the criminal context. That’s why I said I would not feel supremely comfortable if the SOL is the only thing I think gives an escape.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

100 percent not prospectively. It’s in the civil context is the wiggle room for you but I don’t see it as a stretch that the same could happen in the criminal context. That’s why I said I would not feel supremely comfortable if the SOL is the only thing I think gives an escape.

Civil is completely different as you know. How many Supreme Court cases have EVER been reversed by the Supreme Court, anyhow? Jupiter could collide with Mars too, I can't rule that out either.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Civil is completely different as you know. How many Supreme Court cases have EVER been reversed by the Supreme Court, anyhow? Jupiter could collide with Mars too, I can't rule that out.

The constitution does not say criminal. You know that. If courts allow civil SOLs to be undone is it a great stretch that the same could never happen in the criminal context. Again, if I had committed a crime (have not to my knowledge) I would not go about my days care free if the SOL was the only thing I was relying on.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

The constitution does not say criminal. You know that. If courts allow civil SOLs to be undone is it a great stretch that the same could never happen in the criminal context. Again, if I had committed a crime (have not to my knowledge) I would not go about my days care free if the SOL was the only thing I was relying on.

Well, I would grant you it is not impossible, but it seems to me highly highly unlikely. If I had committed some common crime like theft and I was beyond the SOL I would probably have many other things to worry about than the possibility (1) the relevant jurisdiction would extend or eliminate the SOL and (2) the Supreme Court would overturn Stogner.

[HercDriver]

The old argument surfaces again...a solid pitcher like Preacher Roe, or an incredible hitter in Boggs. I guess it's just who you surround them with...

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well, I would grant you it is not impossible, but it seems to me highly highly unlikely. If I had committed some common crime like theft and I was beyond the SOL I would probably have many other things to worry about than the possibility (1) the relevant jurisdiction would extend or eliminate the SOL and (2) the Supreme Court would overturn Stogner.

We can agree on this.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I am currently litigating several cases where SOLs have been removed or their dates have been expanded. Sorry.

It's hard to follow your claim on a logical level. Your original claim seemed to be that the Court overturning Roe because that issue is not in the Constitution signals that the Court may overturn things that are actually in the Cosntitution. Now it is that the ex post facto prohibition of the Constitution has been overturned because you have several active cases about it right now? I'd love to see the case where the Supreme Court overturned Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3! That would be news to quite a number of people. If you just didn't know about it, you are welcome to use it for your clients.