Ohtani CARDS are Mostly UNDERVALUED

packs · #1 08-27-2024, 09:42 AM

Ohtani is the largest presence in the two largest baseball markets in the world. I don't see how anyone could question why it's valuable for a franchise to have that player on their team.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 08-27-2024, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

Ohtani is the largest presence in the two largest baseball markets in the world. I don't see how anyone could question why it's valuable for a franchise to have that player on their team.

Sure, but franchise economics and baseball are two different things and I thought we were discussing baseball.

packs · #3 08-27-2024, 09:59 AM

I thought that what's you meant by his value. He's about to win his third MVP. I didn't think his value on the field was in question.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 08-27-2024, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

I thought that what's you meant by his value. He's about to win his third MVP. I didn't think his value on the field was in question.

It's not at all in question. The issue is how great is that value in overall context. People speak of him as though he's possibly the best player ever. With a combined 41 WAR, that seems way premature to me.

bnorth · #5 08-27-2024, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not at all in question. The issue is how great is that value in overall context. People speak of him as though he's possibly the best player ever. With a combined 41 WAR, that seems way premature to me.

We always need they hype. It is what drives almost everything in life and absolutely everything in our hobby and baseball in general. Nobody ever lives up to the hype and Mike Trout is about over so they had to move on.

packs · #6 08-27-2024, 11:12 AM

The list of three time MVPs is small and aside from Trout, who is active, and Bonds and Arod who had their own issues we're familiar with, the rest of the list were first ballot HOFers. Good company to be in.

I agree he's unlikely to hit major milestones like 500 homers or 3,000 hits, or 300 wins / 5,000 strike outs, but I think most modern pitchers will also struggle to reach those milestones and most modern hitters won't win three MVPs.

calvindog · #7 08-27-2024, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

The list of three time MVPs is small and aside from Trout, who is active, and Bonds and Arod who had their own issues we're familiar with, the rest of the list were first ballot HOFers. Good company to be in.

I agree he's unlikely to hit major milestones like 500 homers or 3,000 hits, or 300 wins / 5,000 strike outs, but I think most modern pitchers will also struggle to reach those milestones and most modern hitters won't win three MVPs.

He�s about to win his third MVP and he�s just entering his prime. He�s poised to be at least a 45-45 player during the year he�s rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. Oh and he�s an ace pitcher and the best two way player since Babe Ruth. Yes, he�s one of the greatest players in the past 50 years.

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