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Old 08-28-2024, 08:13 PM
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You're correct, of course, but it doesn't change my point. Clendenon was left unprotected in the draft in spite of the fact that he still had some gas in the tank, quite possibly to appease Clemente
Or it could be because Clendenon's production had dropped off a lot. In 1967 he hit . 249/.298/.370 OPS+ 91. In 1968 he hit .257/.309/.399 OPS+ 114. The Pirates protected Al Oliver instead. Oliver would play 17 more years in the majors hitting .303 with 2742 hits and made 7 All Star teams. The Pirates clearly made the correct decision.
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It’s true that Clendenon was close to the end of his career, but he had enough left to mentor the 1969 Mets, who gave him a lot of credit for their miraculous run that year.

By the way, the reason Clendenon refused to report to Houston that year? They were being managed by - Harry Walker.
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It’s true that Clendenon was close to the end of his career, but he had enough left to mentor the 1969 Mets, who gave him a lot of credit for their miraculous run that year.

By the way, the reason Clendenon refused to report to Houston that year? They were being managed by - Harry Walker.
My uncle hated Walker. If you see some interviews with him, Charlie is “yeah, he was kind of a dick”, but behind closed doors, he despised the guy.
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It’s true that Clendenon was close to the end of his career, but he had enough left to mentor the 1969 Mets, who gave him a lot of credit for their miraculous run that year.

By the way, the reason Clendenon refused to report to Houston that year? They were being managed by - Harry Walker.
In 1970 in just 121 games he slashed 22/97/.288.
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In 1970 in just 121 games he slashed 22/97/.288.
In 1969 Clendenon slashed . 248/.303/.432 OPS+ 103. He had one decent season his last 6 years in MLB. You don't hang on to that bad production from your 1B.

In 1970 the Pirates 1B Bob Robertson slashed . 287/.367/.564 OPS+ 149. The last time Clendenon gave the Pirates that kind of production was never. With Robertson and Oliver the Pirates won the NL East 5 of 6 years from 1970-1975.
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In 1969 Clendenon slashed . 248/.303/.432 OPS+ 103. He had one decent season his last 6 years in MLB. You don't hang on to that bad production from your 1B.

In 1970 the Pirates 1B Bob Robertson slashed . 287/.367/.564 OPS+ 149. The last time Clendenon gave the Pirates that kind of production was never. With Robertson and Oliver the Pirates won the NL East 5 of 6 years from 1970-1975.
Given his longevity and counting stats, it surprised me to see that Oliver only ended up in the mid 40s in WAR.
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