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Old 09-04-2024, 09:51 PM
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Hand colored salt print 1860s.


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Hand colored salt print 1860s
Thank you! That's pretty awesome! I'd say that's a good early start!


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Not sure about photos, but color film had been well developed (no pun intended!) by the late 1930s as documented by the incredible series, "When It Was a Game," largely consisting of ballplayers' home movies taken at ballparks. "The Wizard of Oz" and "Gone With the Wind" were both released in 1939, and there hasn't been a color movie to match those since. In all my research into the life of Walter Johnson, I have never seen a color photo or film of him, despite the fact that he lived until 1946, well into the color era. But color was expensive, and not considered necessary for many years after its invention. Photos from my youth are all black and white until about 1967, when suddenly they're all in color from then on.
Thank you Hank for sharing your knowledge and research! I'll definitely have to watch that series and keep a look out for the player's home movies.
I thought for sure something might be out there of WaJo.

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Here's a snapshot of Ruth Richards and Alice Pollitt, who played together with the Rockford Peaches from 1948 to 1953. I wish I could read the date stamped on the back, but it looks like an old print.
That's a great one Chris! Might be the first color snapshot of AAGPBL I've seen.

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Somewhere in my collection I have a couple of glass slides in color from around 1915... major league baseball game shots, nothing close up. They could have been "colorized" not sure. If I find them I will post......
Looking forward to seeing it!

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I've shared these two cardinal snaps before but they are both stamped April 20th 1949.

However the style of birds on the bat was changed to the more "upright" cardinals in 1949. The design shown in these two shots is 1948 or prior. So either these were developed late, or they still had the old style in spring training.


I have seen Kodachrome prints from the early 40s, I have no doubt that some exist of pro ball players from that time period, just have to find them.
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Real color photos weren't invented until I believe the mid 30s. So anything before that would be hand colored. I don't think anything would exist (snapshot wise) prior to the early 40s.
Thanks for sharing Lucas! I believe you are correct either ST 1948 or ST 1949 with recycled previous year uniforms. Unless you can figure out what Garagiola is signing

Interesting thing I noticed about your color snapshots & mine are both are rounded corner edges vs. straight edge. Wonder if that's how it came?

In terms of color baseball snapshot photos, I haven't seen anything earlier than yours (as of now). In theory, earlier photos "should" be out there...but I never seen them Given the cost and WW2 I do wonder if that's another factor into not discovering more earlier snapshots.

Even early & mid 1950s color baseball snapshots are very tough to find, since families went with 35mm slides instead.
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Thank you Hank for sharing your knowledge and research! I'll definitely have to watch that series and keep a look out for the player's home movies. I thought for sure something might be out there of WaJo.
That would have been my guess, too, but by now I'd bet against it. Of course, his last ten years before he died in 1946 he was pretty isolated on his farm. But...not THAT isolated: He was the Nationals broadcaster in 1939, and that's when a lot of those color home movies were shot at the ballparks; and he ran for Congress in 1940, but I guess color photography was in its infancy then. You'd think there would be some color film taken at the grand opening of the HOF in 1939, but I've never seen any. There's still stuff out there waiting to be discovered, though, so who knows?
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Probably colorized but old. Date of 1907 crossed out to 1908. I’ve owned this for 45 years or so. Major league park? Let the experts chime in!!! Rocky
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That would have been my guess, too, but by now I'd bet against it. Of course, his last ten years before he died in 1946 he was pretty isolated on his farm. But...not THAT isolated: He was the Nationals broadcaster in 1939, and that's when a lot of those color home movies were shot at the ballparks; and he ran for Congress in 1940, but I guess color photography was in its infancy then. You'd think there would be some color film taken at the grand opening of the HOF in 1939, but I've never seen any. There's still stuff out there waiting to be discovered, though, so who knows?
Maybe the best shot would have been at WWII Bond Games?
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Old 09-06-2024, 03:35 PM
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Default Chet Johnson color snapshot, Tacoma Tigers August 1942

Here's a color Kodak snapshot of cup of coffee major leaguer Chet Johnson, pictured here with the Western Int'l League Tacoma Tigers, August 1942. Chet played 17 years in the minors, largely in the PCL

This came from Chet's own photo album, and unfortunately, was the only color snapshot present. I was quite excited when I discovered it.
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Here's a color Kodak snapshot of cup of coffee major leaguer Chet Johnson, pictured here with the Western Int'l League Tacoma Tigers, August 1942. Chet played 17 years in the minors, largely in the PCL

This came from Chet's own photo album, and unfortunately, was the only color snapshot present. I was quite excited when I discovered it.
Wooow! 1942. Unreal, this is a Kodacolor print. According to Wikipedia that is the first year of true Kodacolor printing of still images (probably not true and went back earlier). According to one source it was used as early as the late 20s, but was for filming, not stills. And barely looked better than B&W.

The difference with Kodachrome I believe is Kodachrome prints were created from slide film. And Kodacolor prints were more traditional and created from color negatives.

I'm not sure about the processes used to create color. But I do know Kodacolor can still be produced today. But Kodachrome slide printing was so complex and specialized it cannot be developed today in color, only in black and white. You can really see the quality difference in the two, Kodachrome almost looks as good as modern photography, while Kodacolor is almost sepia looking.

Amazing photo in any case!!
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Here's a color Kodak snapshot of cup of coffee major leaguer Chet Johnson, pictured here with the Western Int'l League Tacoma Tigers, August 1942. Chet played 17 years in the minors, largely in the PCL This came from Chet's own photo album, and unfortunately, was the only color snapshot present. I was quite excited when I discovered it.
Cool!
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Probably colorized but old. Date of 1907 crossed out to 1908. I’ve owned this for 45 years or so. Major league park? Let the experts chime in!!! Rocky
Awesome, Rocky! Looks like Polo Grounds to me.

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Here's a color Kodak snapshot of cup of coffee major leaguer Chet Johnson, pictured here with the Western Int'l League Tacoma Tigers, August 1942. Chet played 17 years in the minors, largely in the PCL

This came from Chet's own photo album, and unfortunately, was the only color snapshot present. I was quite excited when I discovered it.
Wow!! What a great discovery in that photo album! Thank you for sharing this snapper.
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Maybe the best shot would have been at WWII Bond Games?
You would think, but I've seen a lot of those films, none in color. Doesn't mean there isn't one out there somewhere.
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