What are the best vintage, investment-type players in your opinion?

[Exhibitman]

Hellmann is one of my favorite trivia answers: who hit over .390 four times but only once over .400? He’s the Maxwell Smart of baseball: missed it by that much.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Hellmann is one of my favorite trivia answers: who hit over .390 four times but only once over .400? He’s the Maxwell Smart of baseball: missed it by that much.

At least Heilmann did attain the elusive .400 average for a season. Al Simmons never did, despite hitting .381 and .390 over full seasons.

I would say both players are under-appreciated, but I think it will remain that way.

[packs]

Heinie Manush will forever be the most anonymous 330 career hitter too.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

At least Heilmann did attain the elusive .400 average for a season. Al Simmons never did, despite hitting .381 and .390 over full seasons.

I would say both players are under-appreciated, but I think it will remain that way.

1925 Heilmann leads the league with a .393 batting average and ties for the lead with 134 RBIs and led the league in good old WAR 7.0 ,
World Series winner Roger Pekingpaugh wins MVP with 64 RBIs and the batting average .294 - Heilmann finished fourth in the voting

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

1925 Heilmann leads the league with a .393 batting average and ties for the lead with 134 RBIs and led the league in good old WAR 7.0 ,
World Series winner Roger Pekingpaugh wins MVP with 64 RBIs and the batting average .294 - Heilmann finished fourth in the voting

And Peckinpaugh only appeared in 126 games and had 422 at bats. Its like like they put all the names of the players on the pennant winning team in a hat, and picked the winner at random.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

And Peckinpaugh only appeared in 126 games and had 422 at bats. Its like like they put all the names of the players on the pennant winning team in a hat, and picked the winner at random.

Maybe he had those intangible leadership qualities that don't show up in the stats?
Forerunner to 1965 when Zoilo Versalles was MVP and Yaz whose OPS was like 150 points higher wasn't even in the top 5 I don't think.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe he had those intangible leadership qualities that don't show up in the stats?
Forerunner to 1965 when Zoilo Versalles was MVP and Yaz whose OPS was like 150 points higher wasn't even in the top 5 I don't think.

Roger was Yankee Captain, to underscore your point.