Start selling your Lebron stuff......

BobbyStrawberry · #1 09-21-2024, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Has there ever been a hint of scandal around LeBron?

I think "The Decision" was the closest thing he's had to a scandal.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 09-21-2024, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I think "The Decision" was the closest thing he's had to a scandal.

I have no clue, but I would guess tons of people attend these parties without participating in any of the sleazy shit going on, and maybe it doesn't even start until the main party is over. I'd be shocked out of my senses if LeBron was involved.

BobbyStrawberry · #3 09-21-2024, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no clue, but I would guess tons of people attend these parties without participating in any of the sleazy shit going on, and maybe it doesn't even start until the main party is over. I'd be shocked out of my senses if LeBron was involved.

Yeah, same here. He seems hyper-aware of how things might affect his image.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 09-21-2024, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Yeah, same here. He seems hyper-aware of how things might affect his image.

NFW is he going to mess with drugs IMO, and certainly not in a public setting. And if he wanted some action on the side, it sure as hell wouldn't be with some sex worker with 100 people bearing witness. Just my opinion.

Shoeless Moe · #5 09-21-2024, 09:49 PM

yah I guess they may keep it quiet, superstars are usually untouchable and find their way out of trouble, whereas a non superstar would be kicked off the team.

Similar to how Kobe Bryant and Ben Rothlisberger both raped women and it got buried and not talked about. They were too valuable to their teams and their leagues.

So yah you may be right if Lebron was there and witnessed or participated in they may give him the superstar treatment.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 09-21-2024, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

yah I guess they may keep it quiet, superstars are usually untouchable and find their way out of trouble, whereas a non superstar would be kicked off the team.

Similar to how Kobe Bryant and Ben Rothlisberger both raped women and it got buried and not talked about. They were too valuable to their teams and their leagues.

So yah you may be right if Lebron was there and witnessed or participated in they may give him the superstar treatment.

What possible reason is there, at this point, to suspect LeBron of anything improper? I would guess countless celebs were at these parties, are they all guilty? Come on.

Shoeless Moe · #7 09-21-2024, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What possible reason is there, at this point, to suspect LeBron of anything improper? I would guess countless celebs were at these parties, are they all guilty? Come on.

What possible reason? Are you kidding? He's attended numerous Diddy parties. If he witnessed or participated he is guilty. I know you are like the many who can't fathom their "hero's" could do something wrong. And just deny deny deny.

But for now he is innocent so it's really a dead topic until more comes out, but to deny due to his unblemished image. Are you his friend? You know him via the TV and Computer. Maybe he's innocent and maybe he isn't.

G1911 · #8 09-21-2024, 10:25 PM

It appears that James spoke of the parties on Instagram Live videos he streamed, which appears to be the source he attended these parties. �Everybody know there ain�t no party like a Diddy party�.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 09-21-2024, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

What possible reason? Are you kidding? He's attended numerous Diddy parties. If he witnessed or participated he is guilty. I know you are like the many who can't fathom their "hero's" could do something wrong. And just deny deny deny.

But for now he is innocent so it's really a dead topic until more comes out, but to deny due to his unblemished image. Are you his friend? You know him via the TV and Computer. Maybe he's innocent and maybe he isn't.

Key word -- IF. And you're right, I can't fathom it because I can't believe he would be THAT stupid. We'll see what comes out.

Balticfox · #10 10-17-2024, 11:23 PM

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Maybe he's innocent and maybe he isn't.

Not that I'm any kind of fan of LeBron James, but I strongly disagree. A man is innocent unless and until convicted in a court of law. Case closed. And thank the gods that the presumption of innocence still holds sway here in the U.S. and Canada. The thought of a Soviet style system where a charge equals a conviction is a nightmare for any advocate of individual liberty.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 10-19-2024, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Not that I'm any kind of fan of LeBron James, but I strongly disagree. A man is innocent unless and until convicted in a court of law. Case closed. And thank the gods that the presumption of innocence still holds sway here in the U.S. and Canada. The thought of a Soviet style system where a charge equals a conviction is a nightmare for any advocate of individual liberty.

So OJ was innocent?

John1941 · #12 10-20-2024, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Not that I'm any kind of fan of LeBron James, but I strongly disagree. A man is innocent unless and until convicted in a court of law. Case closed. And thank the gods that the presumption of innocence still holds sway here in the U.S. and Canada. The thought of a Soviet style system where a charge equals a conviction is a nightmare for any advocate of individual liberty.

There is a large difference between presuming someone's innocence and them actually being innocent. We are innocent in the eyes of the law until we are proven guilty, but if we have committed a crime we are guilty of it whether our guilt is proven in a court of law or not.

I'm currently reading Robert A. Caro's biography of LBJ. Taking an example from it, it was never proven in a court of law that LBJ's 1948 senatorial campaign was stolen (because his lawyers weaseled a way to stop the investigation of it), but with Caro's careful research it is 100% clear that LBJ and his allies were guilty of obscene election fraud. They may not have been convicted of election fraud, but they were in no way innocent of it.

So yeah, I agree with Peter here - the lack of a legal conviction is not equivalent to innocence, just as a legal conviction is not equivalent to guilt.

G1911 · #13 09-21-2024, 09:55 PM

No need to sell. Even if true and accusations are incoming (is there a credible source?), he will be treated completely different from guys like Bauer by the public, the hobby and this board. People will suddenly be able to understand that an accusation might be false. Instead of ignoring exonerating evidence, any gaps will be highlighted and the case downplayed from the start, instead of magnified.

Don�t think Puffy is getting to find another Shyne to take the rap this time. Couldn�t the Feds have shown any interest in his criminality before the shiny suit era?

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