SGC'S Aggressive Upcharges

raulus · #1 10-02-2024, 10:15 AM

Snowman was right! Beckett is crushing it with their fixed fee grading.

parkplace33 · #2 10-02-2024, 10:22 AM

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Snowman was right! Beckett is crushing it with their fixed fee grading.

Truly, I don't know how they are surviving. I guess the autograph services?

Balticfox · #3 10-02-2024, 11:32 AM

Just say "No!" to the bastiches. That's the answer.

Exhibitman · #4 10-03-2024, 08:56 AM

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Just say "No!" to the bastiches. That's the answer.

Not if you want to get top $$ for the items.

Balticfox · #5 10-03-2024, 09:30 AM

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Not if you want to get top $$ for the items.

Well then those top $$ are going to have to come from someone else. If you take out and show me a bunch of plastic slabs, I'll just shake my head and walk away.

But go ahead and finance SGC's business if you want. It's your choice.

perezfan · #6 10-03-2024, 01:47 PM

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Well then those top $$ are going to have to come from someone else. If you take out and show me a bunch of plastic slabs, I'll just shake my head and walk away.

But go ahead and finance SGC's business if you want. It's your choice.

Preach!

The Collectors buyout has already ruined them. As predicted, it didn't take long. Rooting hard for CGC to make inroads, and cut into the others' market share.

Brent G. · #7 10-03-2024, 02:06 PM

For those of us mostly dealing in cards worth hundreds instead of thousands of dollars, SGC is pretty great (in my experience) ... but gouging people because they have really nice things is just terrible business.

Exhibitman · #8 10-03-2024, 02:29 PM

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Well then those top $$ are going to have to come from someone else. If you take out and show me a bunch of plastic slabs, I'll just shake my head and walk away.

But go ahead and finance SGC's business if you want. It's your choice.

Now that's both a narrow-minded and self-righteous comment. I could not care less about SGC's business, I care about my business. Grading services are tools for making money, period. My goal when I send in a card is to make it more readily fungible and more valuable for resale. If a slab helps me achieve my goals, I take it. If not, I leave it.

The times I have been upcharged, I have been just fine to pay the difference because it meant that my item was worth a lot more than I thought. The services all have guidelines posted up-front, which I have to accept when I decide to purchase the service, including price tiers. It isn't like an upcharge falls out of the sky. PSA recently hit me with a $50 upcharge because I'd inadvertently submitted an item a tier below its declared value. No complaints on my side with that.

bigfanNY · #9 10-03-2024, 03:07 PM

I posted above that SGC hadn't updated my order since 9/20 when I dropped it off. Well insted of using the website I downloaded their app and found update there. My cards are in the post Grading phase. So SGC is living up to its reputation for speedy service.. And I am hoping that I get asked for an upcharge. Because as Adam pointed out it just means I got a grade higher than my estimate and my card will benifit much more financially than the upcharge amount. Full transparency my card is a W519 Unnumbered Ruth. I estimated the value at 7k if it got a 2 or above I might get an upcharge.
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Balticfox · #10 10-03-2024, 06:02 PM

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Now that's both a narrow-minded ....

Narrow-minded? In what way? Am I not allowed to make up my own mind? Even if I decide to pass on graded cards?

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...and self-righteous comment.

Yes, righteous I am. Some of us have much to be righteous about. Jealousy though will get you nowhere.

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I could not care less about SGC's business, I care about my business.

Hey, I can go you one better. I couldn't care less about either SGC's business or yours. I care about only about the cards themselves and by extension the hobby of collecting cards.

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Grading services are tools for making money, period.

Oh, I agree! But cards aren't just about the money to me. And that's why I reserve the right not to act as a cheerleader on their behalf.

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My goal when I send in a card is to make it more readily fungible....

Sorry. An 8 is not an 8 is not an 8 to me. I buy the card, not the number on the label. You may call it a sense of entitlement, but I reserve the right to make up my own mind.

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...and more valuable for resale.

You have the right to target the fungible crowd. I'm not part of that crowd though and I reserve the right to just say "No".

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If a slab helps me achieve my goals, I take it. If not, I leave it.

Fully understandable. What I don't understand though is how/why you were somehow compelled to cheerlead for SGC's services after I encouraged collectors to just say "No!" and then labelled my own rejection of SGC's services "narrow-minded and self-righteous". I mean what's it to you? Do you have some kind of ownership interest in PSA? If not, why toot their horn? Why not just let them speak for themselves?

Snowman · #11 10-03-2024, 01:01 AM

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Snowman was right! Beckett is crushing it with their fixed fee grading.

To be fair, Beckett graded about 46x as many cards this month as I did.

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