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Old 10-07-2024, 01:53 PM
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Although I'm sure MLB prefers the big market Series, I doubt there's a
conspiracy in place to make it happen. There's a quote out there somewhere,
which states that it's unwise to blame on conspiracy, what you can blame on
ineptitude instead. Officiating in most major sports is taking a beating, often
for very good reason.
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Old 10-07-2024, 03:02 PM
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I tend not to believe in the conspiracy theory. Not only would there have to be some directive from baseball, but individual umpires -- whose entire professional lives are premised on neutrality -- would have to go along.
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2002 Western Conference Finals (NBA). Not a fan of either team but that was some BS
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Cleveland "Indians" better win Games 3 & 4 or Detroit is moving on.

If it goes to Game 5, Detroit has Skubal going on normal rest, and Cleveland can't touch him.
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Old 10-07-2024, 06:36 PM
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2002 Western Conference Finals (NBA). Not a fan of either team but that was some BS
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"the 2002 NBA playoffs were widely criticized for favoring the Los Angeles Lakers, especially in Game 6. Years later, disgraced referee Tim Donaghy claimed that the Game 6 officiating crew was instructed by the NBA's front office to fix the game."
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Old 10-07-2024, 06:17 PM
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I tend not to believe in the conspiracy theory. Not only would there have to be some directive from baseball, but individual umpires -- whose entire professional lives are premised on neutrality -- would have to go along.
Has an official never been bought before? is it unfathomable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGioKeUFDEM

If I was a Pro ump and no idea what they make but let's say they make 200K a year, just a guess, here's 10 million. I'm taking the 10 mil. Now everyone can chime and claim my integrety is worth more than.....blah blah blah.

I'm taking the 10 mil.

But quite possible umps are on the up and up but the replay official who no one sees makes some big game changing calls, so pretty sure it's at least there (as we've seen 2 big calls go against the Padres and Royals, on replay alone).

Let's watch the games and see. Keep an eye on the close calls.

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...and this terrible strike 3 call on Witt with a 3-2 count in the 9th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZ8fI8T4Kc

at the 15:00 mark. either a brutal call by the ump or some funny business.

That catcher lifts his mitt a good foot up. If it's a strike the catcher just holds his mitt in place.

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...and this terrible strike 3 call on Witt with a 3-2 count in the 9th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZ8fI8T4Kc

at the 15:00 mark. either a brutal call by the ump or some funny business.

That catcher lifts his mitt a good foot up. If it's a strike the catcher just holds his mitt in place.
Bad call for sure, but I would bet if you reviewed the entire game you'd find some bad calls the other direction.
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Game outcomes are most certainly influenced by money, directly and indirectly.
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Game outcomes are most certainly influenced by money, directly and indirectly.
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Game outcomes are most certainly influenced by money, directly and indirectly.
Easy to say, but where then are the whistleblowers? There would be fame, notoriety and big money for anyone with evidence to expose such corruption.

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Bad call for sure, but I would bet if you reviewed the entire game you'd find some bad calls the other direction.
After the 1st game my dad, a Yankees fan, suspected from the way the calls went that MLB wanted the Yankees to win. After watching part of tonight's game, he changed his mind; a number of bad strike calls went against the Yankees.

In my opinion, the potential risk for MLB from trying to force a big brand WS is much greater than its potential reward. MLB would make a little extra money if they were successful - but their credibility would take a huge hit if they were found out.
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Repeat of the 1984 World Series , Tigers vs Padres with the Tigers winning again. This is my hope.
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