First-ever SGC 10 Wilt Chamberlain Rookie Graded

Snowman · #1 10-12-2024, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

IMO nobody is going to take a chance on crossing a 10, especially if they have connections. A PSA 10 on a vintage card is never a sure thing or even close. Especially on a super high profile card and especially nowadays. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

You're not wrong. Despite this card being as perfect as a 61 Fleer Wilt RC gets, the chances that it would have even passed grading at all today at PSA, let alone been given a 10 are extremely low. They flag nearly all of these as "min size" now because they are unaware that this set was cut slightly smaller than 2.5x3.5 at factory. But even if it did pass grading, it's a near certainty that even this gem of a card wouldn't have gotten a 10 if it randomly landed on a graders desk by a random submitter at PSA.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 10-12-2024, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

You're not wrong. Despite this card being as perfect as a 61 Fleer Wilt RC gets, the chances that it would have even passed grading at all today at PSA, let alone been given a 10 are extremely low. They flag nearly all of these as "min size" now because they are unaware that this set was cut slightly smaller than 2.5x3.5 at factory. But even if it did pass grading, it's a near certainty that even this gem of a card wouldn't have gotten a 10 if it randomly landed on a graders desk by a random submitter at PSA.

As I like to say, all submitters are equal. Some are more equal than others. Just how it is.

Lorewalker · #3 10-12-2024, 08:38 PM

The Wilt is an amazing looking card and both PSA and SGC got it right but in this present grading environment the average submitter does not get that to cross despite it absolutely deserving it. Like the Amex commercial from long ago, "Membership has it's privileges."

As has also been posted, I think it looked better in the SGC holder but the PSA holder looks much better for the bank account should that day come.

Leon · #4 10-13-2024, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As I like to say, all submitters are equal. Some are more equal than others. Just how it is.

No doubt about it.
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samosa4u · #5 10-13-2024, 12:39 PM

Somebody on Facebook made an interesting post regarding this topic. He thinks that all of this is a "publicity stunt" to show that SGC is now on the same level as PSA and to get more people to cross their cards over. In other words, this is not just one rich dude with connections making moves here. This is a group of people who are doing this with the intention of making more money in the future for their company. This might not be true, but I think it's an interesting way of looking at it.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #6 10-13-2024, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Somebody on Facebook made an interesting post regarding this topic. He thinks that all of this is a "publicity stunt" to show that SGC is now on the same level as PSA and to get more people to cross their cards over. In other words, this is not just one rich dude with connections making moves here. This is a group of people who are doing this with the intention of making more money in the future for their company. This might not be true, but I think it's an interesting way of looking at it.

Hmm...

Was there any sort of publicity blurb in regards to the crossover? Anything on the news or online outside of the hobby/industry? I am not following this thing outside of our forum, but I haven't seen anything make the media as I did with its original discovery, etc.

Snowman · #7 10-13-2024, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Somebody on Facebook made an interesting post regarding this topic. He thinks that all of this is a "publicity stunt" to show that SGC is now on the same level as PSA and to get more people to cross their cards over. In other words, this is not just one rich dude with connections making moves here. This is a group of people who are doing this with the intention of making more money in the future for their company. This might not be true, but I think it's an interesting way of looking at it.

This is nonsense of course.

Also, I just had 7 very easy crossovers to PSA from SGC, including an SGC 6 Wilt with borders every bit as large as this one. All 7 cards were rejected and they called my Wilt "min size" despite the fact that they previously graded it.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 10-13-2024, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

This is nonsense of course.

Also, I just had 7 very easy crossovers to PSA from SGC, including an SGC 6 Wilt with borders every bit as large as this one. All 7 cards were rejected and they called my Wilt "min size" despite the fact that they previously graded it.

You need to get yourself some connections, amigo. Or resign yourself to enjoying those great looking SGC slabs.

ruth-gehrig · #9 10-13-2024, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As I like to say, all submitters are equal. Some are more equal than others. Just how it is.

I love Yogisms even ones not from Yogi

Peter_Spaeth · #10 10-13-2024, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

I love Yogisms even ones not from Yogi

Orwell was brilliant.

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