I'm almost POSITIVE this card features Shoeless Joe...

robw1959 · #1 10-15-2024, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Counts

I still can't figure out why "Lords catches his man" features Jackson, at least according to some, and "Too late for Devlin" doesn't. They look like the same player to me.

They do bear some facial similarity, but, to me, they are not quite dead-ringers. The sliding figure in "Lord Catches His Man" Has some solid newspaper provenance as well. Is there any such provenance for the guy sliding toward Art Devlin?

Steve D · #2 10-15-2024, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Counts:

I still can't figure out why "Lords catches his man" features Jackson, at least according to some, and "Too late for Devlin" doesn't. They look like the same player to me.

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Originally Posted by robw1959

They do bear some facial similarity, but, to me, they are not quite dead-ringers. The sliding figure in "Lord Catches His Man" Has some solid newspaper provenance as well. Is there any such provenance for the guy sliding toward Art Devlin?

The Too Late for Devlin cannot possibly be Joe Jackson, as Devlin played his entire career in the National League, and Jackson played entirely in the American League.

The sliding player must be a Cincinnati Red.

Steve

RUKen · #3 10-16-2024, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve D

Originally Posted by Chris Counts:

I still can't figure out why "Lords catches his man" features Jackson, at least according to some, and "Too late for Devlin" doesn't. They look like the same player to me.

The Too Late for Devlin cannot possibly be Joe Jackson, as Devlin played his entire career in the National League, and Jackson played entirely in the American League.

The sliding player must be a Cincinnati Red.

Steve

I agree that it can't be Devlin and an American League player in the image, but it can't be a Red, because the Cincinnati uniform in those years did not feature a dark cap with a light-colored C. The home uniform had a red cap with no C (except in 1909, when they had a white cap with a red C). The road uniform 1909-1911 was dark blue, and the cap had a red C. In 1912 they wore a gray road uniform with a gray cap, but no C.

The Chicago Cubs' home uniform in 1911 and 1912 featured a dark cap with a white C. This seems like a better match. I've attached an image of Joe Tinker from 1911 or 1912 that had been available at RMY Auctions. (I do not own this photo.)

Steve D · #4 10-16-2024, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RUKen

I agree that it can't be Devlin and an American League player in the image, but it can't be a Red, because the Cincinnati uniform in those years did not feature a dark cap with a light-colored C. The home uniform had a red cap with no C (except in 1909, when they had a white cap with a red C). The road uniform 1909-1911 was dark blue, and the cap had a red C. In 1912 they wore a gray road uniform with a gray cap, but no C.

The Chicago Cubs' home uniform in 1911 and 1912 featured a dark cap with a white C. This seems like a better match. I've attached an image of Joe Tinker from 1911 or 1912 that had been available at RMY Auctions. (I do not own this photo.)

Damn, I totally forgot Chicago started with a C. As I was typing the post, I could only come up with Cincinnati as a "C" team.

Steve

Mark17 · #5 10-16-2024, 04:09 PM

Meanwhile, this is Ty Cobb...

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