Most undervalued HOFers

Peter_Spaeth · #1 10-22-2024, 04:53 PM

If the hobby has undervalued players for decades, it may well continue to do so. Undervalued should not be confused with good investment.

Mark17 · #2 10-22-2024, 04:56 PM

Frank Robinson and Warren Spahn top the list for me.

packs · #3 10-22-2024, 05:05 PM

I've always thought Bill Terry was undervalued too. People sometimes know his name because he hit 400 but you're more likely to remember Ted. Aside from hitting 401 in 1930, he was a career 341 hitter and drove in 100 runs six seasons in a row.

Despite being the last NL player to hit 400 and being on a very short list of players to do it in the modern era, it still took him 15 tries to get into the HOF.

Casey2296 · #4 10-22-2024, 05:16 PM

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Stan Musial
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rhettyeakley · #5 10-22-2024, 05:24 PM

I feel we have hit some of the better ones already but here are my top few that tend to not trade at levels they should...

Eddie Collins
Frank Robinson
Joe Morgan
Kid Nichols (he doesn't have a ton of cards but he is better than he gets credit for)
Charlie Gehringer

michael3322 · #6 10-22-2024, 05:33 PM

Fascinating discussion, as usual.

What about Paul Waner?

Fielding % as RF
1926 NL .975 (2nd)
1927 NL .980 (1st)
1928 NL .974 (2nd)
1929 NL .985 (1st)
1930 NL .960 (5th)
1931 NL .975 (1st)
1932 NL .971 (2nd)
1933 NL .980 (4th)
1934 NL .983 (1st)
1935 NL .981 (2nd)
1937 NL .969 (4th)
1938 NL .975 (3rd)
1939 NL .975 (2nd)

And also...
H 3152
BA .333
R 1627
RBI 1309
OBP .404
SLG .473
OPS .878
OPS+ 134

jakebeckleyoldeagleeye · #7 10-30-2024, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296

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Stan Musial
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Still my all-time favorite card. Love the old style hat and The Man's smile says it all as he loved life, people and just playing baseball.

Brent G. · #8 10-23-2024, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

I've always thought Bill Terry was undervalued too. People sometimes know his name because he hit 400 but you're more likely to remember Ted. Aside from hitting 401 in 1930, he was a career 341 hitter and drove in 100 runs six seasons in a row.

Despite being the last NL player to hit 400 and being on a very short list of players to do it in the modern era, it still took him 15 tries to get into the HOF.

That's a good one -- and what a beautiful card this is.

robw1959 · #9 10-23-2024, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

I've always thought Bill Terry was undervalued too. People sometimes know his name because he hit 400 but you're more likely to remember Ted. Aside from hitting 401 in 1930, he was a career 341 hitter and drove in 100 runs six seasons in a row.

Despite being the last NL player to hit 400 and being on a very short list of players to do it in the modern era, it still took him 15 tries to get into the HOF.

I'm actually going to go with Ted Williams. For someone who can arguably lay claim to being among the top three ballplayers of all-time, his cards are still very moderately priced.

Brent G. · #10 10-22-2024, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the hobby has undervalued players for decades, it may well continue to do so. Undervalued should not be confused with good investment.

I hear you, Peter, but education through boards like this can move the needle. I didn�t know who Jack Glasscock was until 6 months ago � it�s what led me to this site, looking for an 1887 A&G. Somehow I was part of a spike in those prices.

Glad to learn about two names I�ve never heard of in this thread.

bcbgcbrcb · #11 10-22-2024, 07:10 PM

I�m surprised only one mention of Musial. His career stats top every single player mentioned here and his cards might be a little more pricey than most mentioned here but nowhere near the Mantle/Mays/Aaron/Clemente/Jackie/Williams/DiMaggio realm.

Jay Wolt · #12 10-22-2024, 07:16 PM

I'd go w/ Warren Spahn
all time winningest lefty w/ 363 wins

darwinbulldog · #13 10-22-2024, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

I�m surprised only one mention of Musial. His career stats top every single player mentioned here and his cards might be a little more pricey than most mentioned here but nowhere near the Mantle/Mays/Aaron/Clemente/Jackie/Williams/DiMaggio realm.

Used to be Musial. That was when the Propagandas Montiel was bringing $500 instead of $5000.

vintage321 · #14 10-22-2024, 07:27 PM

1) musial
2) steve carlton
3) bob gibson

bk400 · #15 10-22-2024, 07:50 PM

+1 for Spahn and Musial.

The Musial Propagandas is on my wish list, but I'm priced out. That said, it would probably be multiples more expensive if it were an Aaron or a Mantle rookie card of comparable rarity.

Brent G. · #16 10-22-2024, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vintage321

1) musial
2) steve carlton
3) bob gibson

Just noticed recently how cheap Gibson autos are.

Balticfox · #17 10-22-2024, 11:48 PM

Jim Kaat, Luis Aparicio, Nellie Fox, Ernie Banks and Bobby Richardson are five more names that have not been mentioned. Check out their Gold Glove wins as well as their other numbers.

jingram058 · #18 10-22-2024, 11:53 PM

Chuck Klein.

jchcollins · #19 10-23-2024, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent G.

Just noticed recently how cheap Gibson autos are.

Doesn't mean they are undervalued per se though. That dude signed a ton. So did Bob Feller.

Peter_Spaeth · #20 10-22-2024, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent G.

I hear you, Peter, but education through boards like this can move the needle. I didn’t know who Jack Glasscock was until 6 months ago — it’s what led me to this site, looking for an 1887 A&G. Somehow I was part of a spike in those prices.

Glad to learn about two names I’ve never heard of in this thread.

Perhaps, but in the two decades or more this Board has been going it's always the same names and nobody ever seems to move out of the undervalued category. IMO two decades from now Collins, Foxx, Musial, Spahn, Mathews, etc. will still be undervalued. It's an interesting discussion, my only point was don't think of these players as great investiments.

bcbgcbrcb · #21 10-22-2024, 08:00 PM

Glenn:

I believe that the Montiel Musial is more of a reflection on today�s moniker that rarity trumps everything else as opposed to Musial cards in general selling for big bucks. Look at his traditionally accepted 48 Bowman rookie compared to rookie cards of Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Clemente, Jackie & Williams.

parkplace33 · #22 10-23-2024, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Perhaps, but in the two decades or more this Board has been going it's always the same names and nobody ever seems to move out of the undervalued category. IMO two decades from now Collins, Foxx, Musial, Spahn, Mathews, etc. will still be undervalued. It's an interesting discussion, my only point was don't think of these players as great investiments.

Peter, great point. I have seen these discussions in the past and many of these players will still be undervalued.

I like Brooks Robinson, but nothing will change in the future IRT his cards.

packs · #23 10-23-2024, 08:50 AM

I've always thought Harmon Killebrew was the most undervalued of all 500 home run club members. One of his 55 Topps rookies recently sold for just over a thousand dollars in a PSA 7. Hard to find other rookie cards that old in that grade for the same price.

Writehooks · #24 10-23-2024, 09:00 AM

Catfish Hunter.

Bigdaddy · #25 10-22-2024, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the hobby has undervalued players for decades, it may well continue to do so. Undervalued should not be confused with good investment.

And that's not what the OP asked. He asked for "cheap buys compared to their career exploits"

Agree with the names mentioned above with Joe Morgan being my first choice. I'll add a couple more:

Jim 'Cakes' Palmer - 3 Cy Youngs, 6x All-Star, 4 GG, No-hitter
Yogi Berra - 3 MVPs, 13 WS rings (including as a manager), and 18 All-Star selections

Yoda · #26 10-22-2024, 10:33 PM

George Sisler.

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