Most undervalued HOFers

[packs]

Can you quote him saying he would start Perry over Ryan or are you talking about a ranking list he made?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

Can you quote him saying he would start Perry over Ryan or are you talking about a ranking list he made?

Oh, silly me. Putting someone higher up a ranking list isn't putting him over Ryan. Of course, I should have known.

[packs]

I would say that a person who makes an all time list is not thinking about whether they would start Nolan Ryan over Gaylord Perry but I guess that makes me silly.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

I would say that a person who makes an all time list is not thinking about whether they would start Nolan Ryan over Gaylord Perry but I guess that makes me silly.

Let's look at the tape.

Originally Posted by packs

There is no one on earth who would select Perry over Ryan.

Welp, I named an expert, earlier in this thread already, who quite literally did in fact pick Perry over Ryan. He did it in a numbered list. I am sorry this was not convenient for you.

[packs]

He ranked him higher that doesn’t mean anything about who is the pitcher you want between them. I don’t think anyone chooses Perry over Ryan on a one on one basis because everyone would prefer Ryan. So does the hobby. The reasons are the same.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

He ranked him higher that doesn’t mean anything about who is the pitcher you want between them. I don’t think anyone chooses Perry over Ryan on a one on one basis because everyone would prefer Ryan. So does the hobby. The reasons are the same.

Mhm.

Originally Posted by packs

There is no one on earth who would select Perry over Ryan.

Selecting Perry over Ryan on his list is not, in fact, selecting Perry over Ryan. Got it.

I have learned so much today. Can't wait for the next argument that surely will make logical. sense.

[packs]

Baseball Reference ranks Cy Young the second best pitcher of all time but I would not choose him over Nolan Ryan either.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

He ranked him higher that doesn’t mean anything about who is the pitcher you want between them. I don’t think anyone chooses Perry over Ryan on a one on one basis because everyone would prefer Ryan. So does the hobby. The reasons are the same.

What else does being ranked higher mean, if not that? This is spin I cannot get my head around. Why else do we have these discussions over and over and over again, if implicit in them is not who you would take between the players involved?

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