Most undervalued HOFers

[packs]

You listed a ranking not anyone who would choose Perry over Ryan. I listed a ranking that also puts Phil Niekro at 14 and Bert Blyleven at 15 all time. I would not start them over Nolan Ryan either.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

You listed a ranking not anyone who would choose Perry over Ryan. I listed a ranking that also puts Phil Niekro at 14 and Bert Blyleven at 15 all time. I would not start them over Nolan Ryan either.

What YOU would pick is utterly irrelevant to your statement.

You said, since you keep trying to pretend its something else,

Originally Posted by packs

There is no one on earth who would select Perry over Ryan.

James, in actual reality whether you like it or not, very literally did in a numbered list. He selected Perry over Ryan. Whether you agree with that choice is irrelevant to your false claim you made and refuse to walk back.

[packs]

Bill James wasn’t asked the question and his ranking isn’t taking it into consideration. Would you choose Perry over Nolan Ryan? That was the question. The hobby has not.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Bill James wasn’t asked the question and his ranking isn’t taking it into consideration. Would you choose Perry over Nolan Ryan? That was the question. The hobby has not.

All cats have paws. Rover has paws. Therefore, Rover is a cat.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

Bill James wasn’t asked the question and his ranking isn’t taking it into consideration. Would you choose Perry over Nolan Ryan? That was the question. The hobby has not.

Originally Posted by packs

There is no one on earth who would select Perry over Ryan.

So James does not count as a person on Earth because... He was not asked the question. Therefore, very literally selecting Perry over Ryan does not count, because you didn't ask him.

I mean I can just lie and make stuff up all day too. Dave Stewart is the greatest pitcher of all time, and no one on Earth will say otherwise. When people prove that wrong, I'll just pretend these people do not count as people on Earth. Man, it sure is easier when I can just completely disconnect from discernible reality and lie.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Bill James wasn’t asked the question and his ranking isn’t taking it into consideration. Would you choose Perry over Nolan Ryan? That was the question. The hobby has not.

The answer to that, and any other comparative question, is inherent in a ranking.