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Old 11-01-2024, 06:10 PM
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Default PSA Grading really reliable?
A few months ago I sent a Willie Mays bottle cap that I expected at least a 3 or 4 and they graded it a "1" which was ridiculous. A month or so I sent it again and this time they graded it a 4. Are certain graders biased?
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Old 11-01-2024, 06:33 PM
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No. PSA sucks, but they are all we got and the industry standard (yay).
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Old 11-01-2024, 06:58 PM
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No. PSA sucks, but they are all we got and the industry standard (yay).

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Too bad SGC was acquired by them.

PSA wouldn’t be so bad if their graders & reviewers just studied their work own grading definitions.
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yikes .. Better than a pinhole , I guess
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By definition, everything about grading is subjective

It can not ever be "correct" or "accurate"
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yikes .. Better than a pinhole , I guess
I would MUCH rather have a nice looking card with a pinhole than those hideos print lines. It amazes me that they allow that crap on a 6. But I see it all the time.
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A few months ago I sent a Willie Mays bottle cap that I expected at least a 3 or 4 and they graded it a "1" which was ridiculous. A month or so I sent it again and this time they graded it a 4. Are certain graders biased?
There are probably 10,000 similar tales out there if not an order of magnitude more. Not biased. Just inconsistent/incompetent.
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There are probably 10,000 similar tales out there if not an order of magnitude more. Not biased. Just inconsistent/incompetent.
Do they owe me for this mistake or will they refund if I can prove it?
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Do they owe me for this mistake or will they refund if I can prove it?
I would move on and be glad you got the higher grade.
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Allow me to introduce you to PSA’s pejorative replacement acronym around these parts:

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Do they owe me for this mistake or will they refund if I can prove it?
Sure. Just file a complaint with your credit card company. Then kiss your future submission privileges goodbye and watch your certs get deactivated.
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PSA has their ups and downs, but at least right now they are wildly inconsistent.


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They totally missed a trim on the very first card they graded. Just happens to be on the most valuable card in the hobby. 😀
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Did they "miss" it? Or did they know it was trimmed and gave it a high grade anyway because they wanted to launch their company with a high grade on a Honus Wagner card?

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Did they "miss" it? Or did the know it was trimmed and gave it a high grade anyway because they wanted to launch their company with a high grade on a Honus Wagner card?
This scenario seems more likely
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