PSA Grading really reliable?

Zach Wheat · #1 11-04-2024, 06:39 AM

These stories don't really surprise me. IMHO, it seems after their "new" standards came out, cards were consistently undergraded. More recent submissions have been more in line with what I anticipated, but still more strict than the "old" standards. Again, JMHO.

Snowman · #2 11-05-2024, 01:32 AM

Unfortunately, PSA has recently started giving high-end submissions to at least two of their newbie bulk vintage graders that have no idea what they're looking at. We're all used to 4s being graded as 2s by the bulk graders who stare at modern cards all day, but rarely did the high-end stuff come back with that much of a delta before. Saddle up folks!

Kutcher55 · #3 11-05-2024, 08:17 AM

I would argue that PSA�s struggles with consistency is actually a good thing for the knowledgeable collector because it contributes to market inefficiency, which is the best friend of any discerning investor.

perezfan · #4 11-05-2024, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55

I would argue that PSA�s struggles with consistency is actually a good thing for the knowledgeable collector because it contributes to market inefficiency, which is the best friend of any discerning investor.

I certainly get your point, but this philosophy just assumes that cards NEED to be graded (when in reality, they don't).

Kutcher55 · #5 11-05-2024, 02:26 PM

I don�t think cards need to be graded. I collect both graded and raw.

Yoda · #6 11-11-2024, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Unfortunately, PSA has recently started giving high-end submissions to at least two of their newbie bulk vintage graders that have no idea what they're looking at. We're all used to 4s being graded as 2s by the bulk graders who stare at modern cards all day, but rarely did the high-end stuff come back with that much of a delta before. Saddle up folks!

I find it irresponsible that PSA would allow newbie graders anywhere near high value pre-war cards, which suggests, given current grading results, they are applying the same grading criteria to pre-war as modern. I am glad I no longer have the frustration that currently arises by their unprofessionalism, as I simply refuse to deal with them. And now that SGC is part of Fanatics, I worry about them going the way of PSA.

Brent G. · #7 11-11-2024, 04:15 PM

Like most companies these days, they have people who are good at their jobs and others who suck. I assume they don't fire many people and that there's a lot of turnover due to pay that's not enough for someone to live on in that region of the country. I'd say we'd be horrified to know the actual capability of the average employee -- it's a lot closer to McDonald's drive-thru than someone with a jewelry loop.

I only get autographs authenticated by PSA and grades from SGC. I assume the later will only get worse now that they're under the same overlord.

jchcollins · #8 11-11-2024, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

And now that SGC is part of Fanatics, I worry about them going the way of PSA.

SGC is owned by Collectors (PSA), not Fanatics.

GasHouseGang · #9 11-11-2024, 05:17 PM

I look forward to AI machine grading that will consistently give the same result time after time and won't be swayed by who submitted the cards. At least I hope it will be transparent and much more consistent than hand grading.

ullmandds · #10 11-11-2024, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I look forward to AI machine grading that will consistently give the same result time after time and won't be swayed by who submitted the cards. At least I hope it will be transparent and much more consistent than hand grading.

Where's the incentive to regrade any existing slabbed cards by AI?????? Otherwise I feel the % of unslabbed vintage is small compared to the % already graded.

Balticfox · #11 11-11-2024, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

Otherwise I feel the % of unslabbed vintage is small compared to the % already graded.

I disagree. I believe there are far more raw cards in private collections than you think.

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