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Old 11-04-2024, 08:57 PM
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What about Dwight Evans? He seems comparable to Garvey and Parker
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40.1 Parker
67.2 Evans
Not even close. But Evans gets no love.
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Probably won't happen, but I would love to see Allen and Boyer in. But that's personal feelings; I don't know their stats.
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40.1 Parker
67.2 Evans
Not even close. But Evans gets no love.
Dwight Evans, like Bobby Grich, and Keith Hernandez straddle the 1980 cutoff, which I think puts them at a disadvantage.

Garvey and Parker straddle it too. The difference is that unlike Hernandez, Evans or Grich, neither Parker nor Garvey were very productive after 1980, when they hit 30 years old. Yet Garvey and Parker seem to be favored by the committees.
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Dwight Evans, like Bobby Grich, and Keith Hernandez straddle the 1980 cutoff, which I think puts them at a disadvantage.

Garvey and Parker straddle it too. The difference is that unlike Hernandez, Evans or Grich, neither Parker nor Garvey were very productive after 1980, when they hit 30 years old. Yet Garvey and Parker seem to be favored by the committees.
I'd say Dave Parker did a helluva lot after 1980 ... I mean the dude was getting MVP votes at 38 and 39.
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We scream bloody murder over Harold Baines (38.8 WAR, 2800+ hits) and they give us Steve Garvey (38.0 WAR. 2599 hits), and Dave Parker (40.0 WAR, 2700+ hits). Same guy. I loathe the Red Sox but, as much as it pains me to say so, Evans is a way better player than any of these guys and is far more deserving of the HOF.

Ken Boyer and Graig Nettles are basically the same guy. Boyer had a better average, Nettles had more pop. 3B is an underrepresented position, so I would be OK with Boyer if Nettles goes too.

Tommy John is a participation trophy, as is Tiant; David Cone, Rick Reuschel and Kevin Brown had similar careers to them. John's wins are an accumulation stat; he averaged 13 per year. It's the Don Drysdale-Milt Pappas argument all over again.
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As a lifelong Pirates fan, I love(d) Dave Parker -- and Garvey was certainly a great player. I just feel like there are countless others with similar (or better) credentials; namely be beloved Al Oliver.

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We scream bloody murder over Harold Baines (38.8 WAR, 2800+ hits) and they give us Steve Garvey (38.0 WAR. 2599 hits), and Dave Parker (40.0 WAR, 2700+ hits). Same guy. I loathe the Red Sox but, as much as it pains me to say so, Evans is a way better player than any of these guys and is far more deserving of the HOF.

Ken Boyer and Graig Nettles are basically the same guy. Boyer had a better average, Nettles had more pop. 3B is an underrepresented position, so I would be OK with Boyer if Nettles goes too.

Tommy John is a participation trophy, as is Tiant; David Cone, Rick Reuschel and Kevin Brown had similar careers to them. John's wins are an accumulation stat; he averaged 13 per year. It's the Don Drysdale-Milt Pappas argument all over again.
Evans was never THE man on teams that had Yaz and Rice and Fisk (and Lynn was more popular), then Boggs. I think that hurt his public perception.
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Evans was never THE man on teams that had Yaz and Rice and Fisk (and Lynn was more popular), then Boggs. I think that hurt his public perception.
My favorite player growing up. Never flashy, never egotistical, never sought the spotlight. Just went out there and played. A kind, low-key, private family man.

I'd like to see him inducted but there are definitely so many more who need to go in before him--not to mention SO many less.
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I don’t understand how Donaldson and Harris get voted on again after a couple of years have past, without looking at a few other noteworthy Negro League candidates like Lundy, Marcelle, Beckwith, Oms, Poles, Winters, etc.

It’s really infuriating!
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