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MLB HOF has to be the dumbest private club in all of sports. F* the HOF.
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730pm tonight.....
Anyone selected? All terrific careers but no one jumps off the page for me. Guess I wouldn't be surprised if Allen sneaks in given he's been 1 vote short twice. It would be very bitter sweet if El Tiante somehow was elected given his recent passing. |
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Could not agree more!
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Dave Parker and Dick Allen.
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Dick Allen not a big surprise but I was not expecting Parker
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Wow! Just watched too.....in his prime Parker was a top 2-3 player in the game.
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Results of the Classic Baseball Era Ballot (12 votes needed for election): Dave Parker (14 votes, 87.5%); Dick Allen (13 votes, 81.3%); Tommy John (7 votes, 43.8%); Ken Boyer, John Donaldson, Steve Garvey, Vic Harris and Luis Tiant each received less than five votes.
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I am surprised Tiant got less than 5 votes, though. I thought Ken Boyer would get a bit more love than that, too. |
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Dave Parker 40.1 WAR. Not exactly overwhelming. Barely north of Harold Baines.
Ken Boyer? 62.8. Who the hell is voting?
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People that don't care about WAR, such as Paul Molitor, Eddie Murray, Tony Perez, Ozzie Smith, Lee Smith and Joe Torre.
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Feeding the same list of favored names over and over and over again to a small committee of insiders for a closed door discussion and non-public vote pretty much ensures that the selections will not be objectively good or reasonable and that an almost random (or corrupt based on who has the most friends on the committee as appears to have happened for Baines) sub-selection will get chosen each time, with most of the recurring names eventually chosen since its the same names put forth again and again. After decades of this same basic formulation being instituted despite blatantly obvious corruption only adding to the problem, it is clear there is not soon going to be any kind of reasonable or rational method adopted to pick people for logical reasons. This is a silly farce each year.
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I was a Reds fan growing up and 84-86 Parker was appointment TV/Radio. I still think he should have won the MVP over McGee in '85. The drug years of 80-83 killed his career numbers. I often think about what his career numbers would have been without the locker room cocaine influence of 80-83. I would guess 3000+ hits, 400+ HR's and another MVP. Kinda like the Ted Williams math of the early 40's but because of drug use instead of the nobility of going to war. ![]() A decade or so ago, I was at Pirate fest with the boys. My boys were around 15 and 12 at the time. My oldest brought baseballs in case he ran into anyone. He immediately walked up to Parker and asked him to sign his baseball. He smiled and signed. I then pushed my shy 12 year old to him. Parker said - I am actually walking over to sign (there was a line about 2-300 deep at that point - probably an hour wait or so). but he signed for my middle one anyway. I watched a special on him a couple of years ago where he is struggling with Parkinson's. He is not in great shape - so I am glad that he is getting in. Years ago they ran a fake trial for Pete Rose and if he should be in the HOF. I cannot remember what channel it was on and I have never seen it on anything since. But they asked Parker as a witness if Rose should be in the HOF. Parker's response was "I think I should be in the HOF." It is crazy to think that Baines WAR was similar because there was never a time when I thought that Harold Baines was anywhere close to the best player in baseball - or even top 5. But, I was certain of that with Dave Parker!
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I guess I’m covered for both guys with my HOF “earliest” collection. Phew!
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Great cards, Derek!
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Parker's vote totals back in the day were so low because of the drug trial. People forget that Parker was actually suspended for a year for distributing drugs but was allowed to buy his way out of it.
His WAR is so low because WAR hates his defense. -14.8 career and had a negative dWAR 16 times in his 19-year career. Led the league in errors five straight years. But if you'd asked me back in 1985, I'd have thought for sure he was a HOFer. |
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