It's all about the registry

swarmee · #1 12-07-2024, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Not centered enough for a 10, that's for sure.

Tell me how you think this card does not meet PSA's centering standards.

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Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.

Maybe you're thinking the BGS 50/50 requirement for a BGS 10 centering subgrade, and like 52/48 for a 9.5. That's not how PSA grades centering.

Add: I decided to blow it up in paint and calculate the centering on the front. Left border: 266-194 pixels = 70. Right border: 1564-1499 pixels = 65. That's like 52/48 centering. Maybe it's an optical illusion for you?

I do agree that it's not a Gem Mint 10, but for these reasons: 1) Blue ink splotch PD on right side in green field. 2) Cyan alignment way off (as seen in PADRES). 3) Other minor blemishes in print quality (blue streak halfway between border and D in DAVE), plus white fisheye under R.

Gorditadogg · #2 12-07-2024, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee

Tell me how you think this card does not meet PSA's centering standards.

Maybe you're thinking the BGS 50/50 requirement for a BGS 10 centering subgrade, and like 52/48 for a 9.5. That's not how PSA grades centering.

Add: I decided to blow it up in paint and calculate the centering on the front. Left border: 266-194 pixels = 70. Right border: 1564-1499 pixels = 65. That's like 52/48 centering. Maybe it's an optical illusion for you?

I do agree that it's not a Gem Mint 10, but for these reasons: 1) Blue ink splotch PD on right side in green field. 2) Cyan alignment way off (as seen in PADRES). 3) Other minor blemishes in print quality (blue streak halfway between border and D in DAVE), plus white fisheye under R.

I measured the width of the green borders where they meet the blue and got 54/46. So yeah, within tolerances. Just eyeballing it, I thought it was well past 55/45 side-to-side, so maybe I am not that good with the colored borders.

As far as blemishes, there is also a fish-eye on the bottom right corner. All in all I wouldn't pay $33k for the card.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 12-07-2024, 11:53 PM

I wouldn't trust cards like this not to be microtrimmed. Even back then, big bucks for getting them into the 10 holder, and no expense to buy them. I am guessing a lot of these very low pop common 10s are altered. Just my opinion.

Snowman · #4 12-08-2024, 02:52 AM

I love it when the cucks of the hobby fight over trash cards like these. So funny

Balticfox · #5 12-08-2024, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I wouldn't trust cards like this not to be microtrimmed. Even back then, big bucks for getting them into the 10 holder, and no expense to buy them. I am guessing a lot of these very low pop common 10s are altered.

While the nice, sharp Topps 1975 Dave Roberts card priced at $2 at your local card show is most certinly not trimmed. Draw your own conclusions. (Mine would be that the higher the price of the card, the more likely trimming may be part of its "provenance".)

Peter_Spaeth · #6 12-08-2024, 12:34 PM

None of it matters -- whether it's trimmed, whether it's deserving of the 10, whether broken out of the slab and laid next to 10 of the same card that used to be 9s you could tell the difference (and I bet you could not). As I say, the flip is now the commodity.

butchie_t · #7 12-08-2024, 12:56 PM

I'm feeling rich.......

Chortle...

Beercan collector · #8 12-08-2024, 01:06 PM

Here�s one on eBay that appears to still have the original corners 🙂
Also The registration of �Padres� is on - unlike the �10�

Balticfox · #9 12-08-2024, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

None of it matters -- whether it's trimmed, whether it's deserving of the 10, whether broken out of the slab and laid next to 10 of the same card that used to be 9s you could tell the difference (and I bet you could not). As I say, the flip is now the commodity.

When playing the "greater fool" theory is the most popular game in town, how long can it be before the bubble bursts?

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Originally Posted by perezfan

PT Barnum is beaming from his grave.

Yes, I'm sure! But he's dead so thankfully can be ignored. Less convenient though are all the proverbial prudent men on the street. I'd hate to be the one trying to explain why one 1975 Dave Roberts card sold for $33,600 while another basically indistinguishable Dave Roberts card sits at $3.36 with no takers. I imagine any explanation I might be able to offer would be met with a sneer and the comment" Are all you Baseball card collectors crazy or are you just stupid?"

Ahhhh, well the minority responsible for these extremes are (stupid crazy) I guess. Unfortunately it's a minority we can't ignore because they do have an impact on setting prices for the rest of us.

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