I simply do not understand Modern - Doncic vs Mantle

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I bought an Iverson rookie insert for my son 5 years ago for $133. in 2021 it shot up to over $1000, with one goofy sale on 2/15/21 of $3888. This year the prices have settled down and are in the $400s. The basketball market has been a wild ride.

I bought a bunch of Darius Garland rookie cards at the height of the market for about $300 each. Not my best investment. They dropped to $10 earlier this year, and now with Cleveland in first place they've rallied to $30.

But this is the same market in which I bought a bunch of Leo Messi cards for $20 each and sold them later the same year for $800-$1000 each, so I suppose it worked out alright on balance.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

I bought a bunch of Darius Garland rookie cards at the height of the market for about $300 each. Not my best investment. They dropped to $10 earlier this year, and now with Cleveland in first place they've rallied to $30.



But this is the same market in which I bought a bunch of Leo Messi cards for $20 each and sold them later the same year for $800-$1000 each, so I suppose it worked out alright on balance.

Sure, and that's the other side of it. If you are collecting cards of active players, their prices are going to go all over the place based on how they are playing.

The point I was trying to make is that if you look at the basketball card market since 2021, it looks like it is tanking, but if you look at it over the last 5 years or longer, prices are way up. Iverson has been out of the league for 15 years. His cards go up or down based on the market demand for NBA stars. To pick a different player, Kobe's prices are similar. His Chrome refractor rookie was $6k in 2019, ran all the way up to $118k, and is now at $18.

The reason Doncic cards have gone down is because of the overall market, not because of Doncic specifically.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Jokic. His numbers, at his age, are unreal.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jokic. His numbers, at his age, are unreal.

Agree. The Joker just keeps getting better. For a guy that plays below the rim it is crazy to see how much he controls the game. He could get another MVP this year, although Giannis and Shai are having amazing years as well.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Agree. The Joker just keeps getting better. For a guy that plays below the rim it is crazy to see how much he controls the game. He could get another MVP this year, although Giannis and Shai are having amazing years as well.

I'm not sure how significant the EFF stat is at the end of the day, but Jokic is just crushing everyone else even Giannis. 10.6 assists per game so far, that's absurd for a big man.

[vintagerookies51]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I'm not sure how significant the EFF stat is at the end of the day, but Jokic is just crushing everyone else even Giannis. 10.6 assists per game so far, that's absurd for a big man.

And at the same time leading the league in RBD and 2nd in points. I'm in a fantasy league and he's just head and shoulders above everyone else. Also shows people who don't understand how someone like Larry Bird could've dominated back in the day

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I'm not sure how significant the EFF stat is at the end of the day....

It's a really significant stat, especially when used in conjunction with the +/- number.

[samosa4u]

https://goldin.co/item/2018-panini-p...0-psa-gemkqzd3

100k USD for Josh f**king Allen! Zero Super Bowl appearances!

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Agree. The Joker just keeps getting better. For a guy that plays below the rim it is crazy to see how much he controls the game. He could get another MVP this year, although Giannis and Shai are having amazing years as well.

Honestly, he could win a sort of triple crown this season (points, rebounds, assists) which isn't a thing only because no one's ever done it.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

His Chrome refractor rookie was $6k in 2019, ran all the way up to $118k, and is now at $18.

Not that there's there's any point either in trying to assign rhyme or reason to the flights of speculative fancy that characterize the card "market".