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Old 12-15-2024, 06:06 AM
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Seller should make it right, HE is the one who overgraded the cards in the first place. How is this on the buyer? Common sense wise that is, I'm not giving a contract law answer.
Anyone who buys and sells raw cards knows grades are subjective though. We, unlike a lot of auctions sell raw cards and assign them grades. While we strive to be accurate, differences of opinions occur. In those rare instances we offer a full refund, but no renegotiation.
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Old 12-15-2024, 09:36 AM
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Whichever end of this transaction someone is on I'm sure they probably think the other party is being the asshole.
For me personally, I'm not arguing over something as trivial as a baseball card. When the seller stated "It's all or nothing" I'd have asked him to send the refund for the entire lot and moved on.
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Old 12-15-2024, 01:45 PM
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No A hole here. Seller has an obligation to advertise properly, and if the cards are not ALL near mint as advertised, then the seller may return them and rescind the agreement. The initial legal issue in this case is whether the cards are all near mint and what standard should be used to define near mint.

Once the cards were returned because they all did not comply with the terms of the contract (I.e. condition), then the original contract has been rescinded and neither party has any obligation to the other.

The buyer then attempted a new agreement, which the seller did not agree to. At that point, neither part has any obligation to the other, so if they cannot agree on new terms, they should simply walk away. Instead, both became emotional but there was no reason for that since neither had an obligation to the other.

The real problem is that neither party appears versed in basic contracts.
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Seller is the a-hole. If you won't budge on price even after being shown that your cards are over-graded, you're the a-hole.
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Old 12-16-2024, 05:36 AM
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Seller is the a-hole. If you won't budge on price even after being shown that your cards are over-graded, you're the a-hole.
Nevermind, found the a-hole.

A seller is not an a-hole because he doesn't lower his price for you. He is free to sell his cards for any price he wants, and free to walk away from any offer, even if you believe it to be reasonable. Your comment shows a sense of entitlement that needs to be gone from our society.
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:58 AM
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Nevermind, found the a-hole.

A seller is not an a-hole because he doesn't lower his price for you. He is free to sell his cards for any price he wants, and free to walk away from any offer, even if you believe it to be reasonable.
I concur.
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Old 12-16-2024, 12:36 PM
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Nevermind, found the a-hole.

A seller is not an a-hole because he doesn't lower his price for you. He is free to sell his cards for any price he wants, and free to walk away from any offer, even if you believe it to be reasonable. Your comment shows a sense of entitlement that needs to be gone from our society.
Holy shit you're dumb. It's truly remarkable how stupid you are. Try again...

Seller sells you 20 cards he says are "Near Mint". Cards arrive in the mail. Seven of them have obvious creases. You send him pictures showing the creases. He agrees, "sorry, I must have missed those". You ask for a partial refund. He says, "no, my price is my price".

If you're on Team Seller, you're also the asshole.
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Holy shit you're dumb. It's truly remarkable how stupid you are. Try again...

Seller sells you 20 cards he says are "Near Mint". Cards arrive in the mail. Seven of them have obvious creases. You send him pictures showing the creases. He agrees, "sorry, I must have missed those". You ask for a partial refund. He says, "no, my price is my price".

If you're on Team Seller, you're also the asshole.
Speaking of dumb, that's not how the conversation in this thread went. So try again.

Regardless, if seller says he will give a full refund, only an a-hole finds that to be unreasonable.
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Holy shit you're dumb. It's truly remarkable how stupid you are. Try again...

Seller sells you 20 cards he says are "Near Mint". Cards arrive in the mail. Seven of them have obvious creases. You send him pictures showing the creases. He agrees, "sorry, I must have missed those". You ask for a partial refund. He says, "no, my price is my price".

If you're on Team Seller, you're also the asshole.
Frosty, be honest: You often think you're the only intelligent person on Net54, don't you?
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