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Old 12-22-2024, 03:50 PM
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Ummm... Bench is universally regarded as the greatest Catcher of all time.

No one would make that claim for Henderson as an outfielder. Nobody in his/her right mind would rank Henderson above Aaron, Mays, Ruth, Musial, Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Cobb, Clemente and many others. Ridiculous argument.
I think you’re underrating just how great Rickey really was. Again, yes, WAR is not everything, but he put up one more than Mantle, 16 more than Clemente and a whole bunch more than DiMaggio, although of course Joe had military service time.

You might not rank Rickey above those guys based on other factors, and that’s fine, but it’s not ridiculous or crazy to say he was better.
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I think you’re underrating just how great Rickey really was. Again, yes, WAR is not everything, but he put up one more than Mantle, 16 more than Clemente and a whole bunch more than DiMaggio, although of course Joe had military service time.

You might not rank Rickey above those guys based on other factors, and that’s fine, but it’s not ridiculous or crazy to say he was better.

Henderson hit . 279/ .401/ .419 OPS+ 127. 60th all-time in OBP, but his other stats are mediocre compared to those players. He wasn't an outstanding defensive player. He is the greatest base stealer of all-time, but behind all those guys mentioned on all-time lists.
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He is the greatest base stealer of all-time, but behind all those guys mentioned on all-time lists.
WPA seems like a decent measuring stick. Rickey is ranked #16, behind most of the top-tier greats mentioned (Ruth, Williams, Mays, Aaron, Mantle, Musial and Cobb) but ahead of DiMaggio and Clemente.
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Nice tribute to Henderson on The Ringer site.

https://theringer.com/2024/12/22/mlb...land-athletics
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Nice tribute to Henderson on The Ringer site.

https://theringer.com/2024/12/22/mlb...land-athletics
Thanks for posting. Interesting stat showing that he is the all-time leader in stolen bases both under age 30 and age 30+ and that no one else is in the top 18 on both lists.
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I heard that Rickey had the highest WAR since 1940 of any player other than A-Rod and Bonds. No steroid accusations with Rickey.
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Another fun Rickey stat..... he had a slightly higher success rate at stealing 3rd base than 2nd base (it was roughly 81% vs. 80.5%). Not sure if he ever successfully tried stealing home?
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