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Old 12-26-2024, 11:54 AM
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Ummm... Bench is universally regarded as the greatest Catcher of all time.
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No one would make that claim for Henderson as an outfielder.Nobody in his/her right mind would rank Henderson above Aaron, Mays, Ruth, Musial, Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Cobb, Clemente and many others. Ridiculous argument.
"Right mind"? "Ridiculous"? If you're not trying to provoke hostility, you might think twice before using inflammatory terms.

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"Right mind"? "Ridiculous"? If you're not trying to provoke hostility, you might think twice before using inflammatory terms.
I am not saying they don't exist, but I've never seen a statistically based argument that Berra was better than Bench. That argument always feels driven by nostalgia/romantic notions about intangibles etc.
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I am not saying they don't exist, but I've never seen a statistically based argument that Berra was better than Bench. That argument always feels driven by nostalgia/romantic notions about intangibles etc.
I'd rate Johnny Bench well ahead of Yogi Berra as well. But Perezfan said "universal". My underlying objection was to Perezfan's extreme choice of words when responding to my post.

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I stay away from "the greatest ever" statements and discussions because it's purely subjective; opinion based. In Rickey Henderson's case, there is no argument. When it comes to base stealing, he's hands down the greatest ever. And base stealing would appear to be a lost art in today's game.
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