When Did the Last Surviving T206 Subject Pass Away?

[oldjudge]

My dad was born in 1900 in NYC. He could have run into Old Judge players on the street.

[Mungo Hungo]

I have one T206 card, of Tommy Leach, which I received at random when I was around 10, through a TV Guide ad.

Leach died the year I was born (1969) in Haines City, Fla., where I was a newspaper reporter in the 1990s. He was very active in the community, so I undoubtedly came across people who had known or at least talked to him.

[LEHR]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but does anyone know who the last living player was from the 1933 Goudey set?

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by LEHR

Not trying to hijack this thread, but does anyone know who the last living player was from the 1933 Goudey set?

And to slightly sidetrack down the Goudey hijack line, I believe the oldest surviving player in the 1934 Goudey set was Linus Frey, who passed away in 2009 at the age of 99, and the oldest surviving player in the 1938 Goudey set was Bobby Doerr, who passed away in 2017 at the age of 101.

Not sure about the 1933 Goudey set.

As far as the T206 question, I pasted a list created on the forum by Tom H. back in 2009 below containing the oldest surviving T206 players (minus the Seitz). It may be missing other non-major league players:

Rube Marquard 6-1-1980
Paddy Livingston 9-19-1977
Al Shaw 12-30-1974
Fred Snodgrass 4-5-1974
Larry Doyle 3-1-1974
George McBride 7-2-1973
Dutch Jordan 12-23-1972
Fred Parent 11-2-1972
Davy Jones 3-30-1972
Donie Bush 3-28-1972
Zach Wheat 3-11-1972
Chief Meyers 7-25-1971
Harry Pattee 7-17-1971

Brian

[Orioles1954]

Off the top of my head it might be Milt Gaston who diied in 2002. For the 1934 Goudey set Billy Werber died around 2009. I got to have him sign it at age 100.

Edit: Duly noted about Lonny Frey.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Off the top of my head it might be Milt Gaston who diied in 2002. For the 1934 Goudey set Billy Werber died around 2009. I got to have him sign it at age 100.

Edit: Duly noted about Lonny Frey.

That may be half correct. I think the last player did die in 2002, but it was Willis Hudlin. Gaston passed in '96.

[Orioles1954]

Thanks. Those two guys were always the same to me!

[gregndodgers]

Ok, speaking of old people (and way off topic), but I was shocked to find out that our tenth President, John Tyler, still has a living grandson. Look it up!

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Off the top of my head it might be Milt Gaston who diied in 2002. For the 1934 Goudey set Billy Werber died around 2009. I got to have him sign it at age 100.

Edit: Duly noted about Lonny Frey.

I knew there was another player in the 1934 Goudey issue that was vying for last survivor for the set...thanks for providing the Werber name. Billy Werber died on 1/22/2009, thus allowing Frey to snatch away the crown, living until 9/13/2009.

Brian

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

My dad was born in 1900 in NYC. He could have run into Old Judge players on the street.

Similarly, my dad was born in 1897 in Chicago, where he may have crossed paths with Old Judge players. I recall Dad telling me that he and his buddies played stickball on the streets of Chicago.

[T206Collector]

I’ve identified 2 Minor Leaguers and 5 Southern Leaguers who may have never died. In a couple of cases, I’m starting to think they may never have existed — a cross-up in first and last name, someone else’s photo, etc.

Minor Leaguers (DOD)
Phelan, Jimmy (N/A)
Poland, Phil (N/A)

Southern Leaguers (DOD)
Miller, Molly (N/A)
Reagan, Ed (N/A)
Ryan, Ray (N/A)
Smith, Carlos (N/A)
White, Foley (N/A)

[tjisonline]

Amazing research.

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I’ve identified 2 Minor Leagues and 5 Southern Leaguers who may have never died. In a couple of cases, I’m starting to think they may never have existed — a cross-up in first and last name, someone else’s photo, etc.

Minor Leaguers (DOD)
Phelan, Jimmy (N/A)
Poland, Phil (N/A)

Southern Leaguers (DOD)
Miller, Molly (N/A)
Reagan, Ed (N/A)
Ryan, Ray (N/A)
Smith, Carlos (N/A)
White, Foley (N/A)

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I’ve identified 2 Minor Leagues and 5 Southern Leaguers who may have never died. In a couple of cases, I’m starting to think they may never have existed — a cross-up in first and last name, someone else’s photo, etc.

Minor Leaguers (DOD)
Phelan, Jimmy (N/A)
Poland, Phil (N/A)

Southern Leaguers (DOD)
Miller, Molly (N/A)
Reagan, Ed (N/A)
Ryan, Ray (N/A)
Smith, Carlos (N/A)
White, Foley (N/A)

John Phelan is Jimmy Phelan: http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=phelan001joh

Philip Poland: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=poland002phi

Charles Miller is Molly Miller: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=miller002cha

Ed Reagan is Eddie Reagan: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...=reagan002edw#

Ray Ryan: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=ryan--001ray

Carlos Smith: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=smith-006car

Foley White: http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=white-001fol

[T206Collector]

Thanks for the heads up! Last time I had checked Baseball Reference didn’t have DOB for any of those 7. Seems like now only Phelan, Poland, and Miller are missing birthdays.

Originally Posted by theshowandme

John Phelan is Jimmy Phelan: http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=phelan001joh

Philip Poland: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=poland002phi

Charles Miller is Molly Miller: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=miller002cha

Ed Reagan is Eddie Reagan: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...=reagan002edw#

Ray Ryan: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=ryan--001ray

Carlos Smith: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=smith-006car

Foley White: http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=white-001fol

[Kidnapped18]

These are the players I don't have info on
#22 Bastian, Jack ??
#335 Miller, Molly ??
#390 Phelan, Jimmy ??
#395 Poland, Phil ??
#283 Lentz, Harry Sentz ??
#501 Westlake, James ??

[deucetwins]

Back to the Tyler sub-thread. So fathering a child at 75? Bravo and well done. Definitely worth going down the rabbit hole to research this one.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Kidnapped18

These are the players I don't have info on
#22 Bastian, Jack ??
#335 Miller, Molly ??
#390 Phelan, Jimmy ??
#395 Poland, Phil ??
#283 Lentz, Harry Sentz ??
#501 Westlake, James ??

John Kenney ("Jack") Bastian
Birth: May 10, 1883
Newburgh, NY
Death: June 14, 1959
Newburgh, NY

Harry Sentz
Birth: January 31, 1883
Baltimore, MD
Death: January 8, 1932
Baltimore, MD

James Arthur Westlake
Birth: November 1, 1874
New Jersey
Death: August 31, 1935
Essex, NJ