Authenticated eBay Cards Through PSA

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I think it's irritating. I have been collecting for 40+ years I know when something is real or not. And to buy something graded and it takes forever to go through their "authenticator" is a drag, IMO.

You must have been a little oblivious as to how rampant fraud and scamming was becoming on eBay during the boom. Fake cards, fake slabs, sellers not shipping the correct card. Any possible way someone could try and pull one over…they were trying. It really is a necessary inconvenience.

[campyfan39]

I still think it should be up to the buyer.
And i am not "oblivious" to anything in the area I collect, as I have been active for most of my life.

Originally Posted by CardPadre

You must have been a little oblivious as to how rampant fraud and scamming was becoming on eBay during the boom. Fake cards, fake slabs, sellers not shipping the correct card. Any possible way someone could try and pull one over…they were trying. It really is a necessary inconvenience.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I still think it should be up to the buyer.
And i am not "oblivious" to anything in the area I collect, as I have been active for most of my life.

So are you saying as a buyer you would be fine with giving up any right to protest with Ebay? Let's say the card you got didn't match the picture. The picture showed an authentic Campanella card that you paid the seller $3000 for, but the seller sent you a reprint. You would accept that loss and wouldn't expect Ebay to help you make it good?

I just can't see how anybody that has as much experience as you do would put yourself out there like that, just to get your card a couple days sooner.

[campyfan39]

That's a fair point. I am just too trusting I guess. The cards I buy are not anywhere close to 3k, and I check feedback, etc., but I see where you are coming from.
Before this authentication process, didn't you have recourse with eBay by filing for a return saying it didn't match the listing?
Chris

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

So are you saying as a buyer you would be fine with giving up any right to protest with Ebay? Let's say the card you got didn't match the picture. The picture showed an authentic Campanella card that you paid the seller $3000 for, but the seller sent you a reprint. You would accept that loss and wouldn't expect Ebay to help you make it good?

I just can't see how anybody that has as much experience as you do would put yourself out there like that, just to get your card a couple days sooner.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

That's a fair point. I am just too trusting I guess. The cards I buy are not anywhere close to 3k, and I check feedback, etc., but I see where you are coming from.
Before this authentication process, didn't you have recourse with eBay by filing for a return saying it didn't match the listing?
Chris

Sure, those buyer's resolution procedures are still in place for cards under $250, card lots or sets, and a bunch of other categories.

And yes, I have felt that pain, I used Ebay's buyer's resolution in the past a lot. I bought many cards from sellers that were advertised as near mint but showed up with creases. I've gotten trimmed cards, cards that didn't match the pictures (seller said they were "stock photos") and a fake Ozzie Smith rookie. I once got a "near mint" set (lots of pictures in the listing) where the seller pulled out several of the stars and replaced them with fillers. When I confronted him, he told me that I must have done it.

In all those cases I eventually got a refund. Ebay almost always sides with the buyer. Which is why I never sold expensive cards on Ebay before their authentication program. I heard about buyers claiming they got empty boxes, or that they never received the package even when USPS showed it delivered. I never wanted to be on the seller's side in the buyers resolution process.

For me, the new procedures are great both as a buyer and a seller. The things I buy and sell on Ebay are mainstream, mostly 50s and 60s cards, and so far every transaction has gone smoothly.