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Peter_Spaeth · #1 01-11-2025, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Good eye! I hadn't even noticed that yet.

A very curious use of quotation marks indeed.

Well, sure, in one sense they are of course abusing but the term can have a very pejorative and contemptuous connotation implying some sort of moral failing, at least as I have heard it, and that may not necessarily be warranted in some cases.

G1911 · #2 01-11-2025, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well, sure, in one sense they are of course abusing but the term can have a very pejorative and contemptuous connotation implying some sort of moral failing, at least as I have heard it, and that may not necessarily be warranted in some cases.

I'm sure the people shooting up heroin with taxpayer funded clean needles are guilty of no moral failing and are not always abusers of the illegal and deadly substance they are injecting into themselves. What a horrible implication it would be to suggest otherwise or to have contempt for the losers shooting up on the sidewalk

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Perhaps one day California will deal with actual problems instead of this kind of crap, but I doubt it. Subsidizing illegal drug use and denying human biology are higher up the priority list because reasons.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 01-12-2025, 12:01 AM

It's not nearly so simple as branding these people "losers" or morally deficient.

https://invisiblepeople.tv/how-homel...their%20escape.

Svabinsky78 · #4 01-12-2025, 12:17 AM

All pretty surreal. Have numerous colleagues and friends who lost their homes.

I live in the hills of Studio City, just over the ridge from the Sunset Fire. I think we were fortunate because by the time the Sunset Fire broke out in the Hollywood Hills, the wind had calmed down considerably, which enabled the FD choppers to attack the fire from the air. Having the Hollywood Reservoir right there also helped with knocking that fire out with relative ease.

I think had the Sunset Fire started in the first 24-48 hours of this ordeal, when the winds were raging, Studio City and Hollywood likely would not have gone unscathed.

Dewey · #5 01-12-2025, 12:21 AM

Adam, I am okay. Though I have 9 friends who lost homes. Thanks for asking. A tragic time.

Meanwhile, why is some Canadian dude crapping on my city while we suffer? He probably voted for Rob Ford.

Government funding is what it is. But tell me what a billion dollars more would have done to stop 80mph winds, grounded Super Scoopers (thanks Canada for helping!), and generationally dry conditions? Not a darn thing, that's what.

Let history be the judge if and where the blame should be laid. The current blame game only serves ideological division with its trollish, cherry-picked facts. Give it a rest.

Angelinos, hang in there. A few more days of this wind.

Exhibitman · #6 01-12-2025, 12:45 AM

I agree, Dewey, and I am glad you are OK. We are too. We have family who evac'ed yesterday from the hills in Encino and we are all hoping that the winds reverse a bit and the fire doesn't crest the Santa Monica Mountains and burn down to the bottom.

I shake my head at the hubris of those who think there is any amount of spending that could have stopped these firestorms. We cannot control the winds or the rain. We have never had hurricane force Santa Ana winds (a category 1 is 75 mph; we topped out at 94 mph last week) during the middle of the driest 'rainy' season to date on record with single-digit humidity. I only know of one force that can intervene to stop that...and it ain't us puny mortals.

Mistakes were made but they had nothing to do with finance, and it is a control fantasy to think otherwise. They had to do with building in the middle of arroyos and box canyons. Those decisions date back a hundred years. I've been part of the construction defect litigation community for 30+ years and an open secret among us practitioners is that the hillsides of Los Angeles should never have been developed and are a disaster waiting to happen. The usual issues are landslides and slope failures, but fire is going to be the issue going forward.

Please keep a good thought for the people of this state the way we kept a good thought for the victims of the hurricanes a few months ago across the south and leave the feuding and political horseshit for some other time. It doesn't belong in this thread and is unseemly, peevish and cruel.

doug.goodman · #7 01-12-2025, 12:56 AM

As usual, I agree completely with Adam.

A $100 billion dollar fire budget wouldn't have stopped what we have witnessed here in the last week, and there's a good chance it will be repeating in the next week.

Meanwhile, I was one of many who had their insurance coverage cancelled shortly before it might have been needed. Only a coincidence I'm sure.

Doug

Dewey · #8 01-12-2025, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Meanwhile, I was one of many who had their insurance coverage cancelled shortly before it might have been needed. Only a coincidence I'm sure.
Doug

Sorry to hear that Doug. How shameful.

Eric72 · #9 01-12-2025, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

...leave the feuding and political horseshit for some other time. It doesn't belong in this thread and is unseemly, peevish and cruel.

+1

Leon · #10 01-12-2025, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric72

+1

+3.
Anymore political crap in this thread is probably going to get deleted, followed by an impolite PM.
Thanks for the discussion otherwise.
Hopefully they will get the fires under control soon. It's hard to comprehend when seeing the pictures.
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Balticfox · #11 01-12-2025, 11:29 PM

political post deleted. Thanks so much!

BigfootIsReal · #12 01-13-2025, 10:02 AM

Here come the mudslides

irv · #13 01-13-2025, 11:25 AM

Political comments deleted.

G1911 · #14 01-12-2025, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not nearly so simple as branding these people "losers" or morally deficient.

https://invisiblepeople.tv/how-homel...their%20escape.

I called addicts who need my tax dollars to pay for their drug needles losers, not homeless people. I'm sure heroin junkies are morally virtuous winners, and that pigs fly. I guess heroin junkies and homeless people are the same thing. This is beyond stupid.

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