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Old 01-13-2025, 04:09 PM
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See under additional services. He has been doing this a long time. It would certainly be interesting to see a past and present (card) client list, and to know whether those clients disclose his work when they sell. If, of course, there is anything to disclose, maybe it's all just using water.
Looking over the website, part of me wonders how much work he gets on cards. His assertions seem like they could be mostly/entirely puffery, and maybe he hasn't done much or anything?

Of course, it's possible that he's worked on millions of cards, many of which are now safely ensconced in slabs.

I'm guessing either way, simply seeing these services advertised in a public forum is enough to make one mad enough to chew nails and spit rust.
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Looking over the website, part of me wonders how much work he gets on cards. His assertions seem like they could be mostly/entirely puffery, and maybe he hasn't done much or anything?

Of course, it's possible that he's worked on millions of cards, many of which are now safely ensconced in slabs.

I'm guessing either way, simply seeing these services advertised in a public forum is enough to make one mad enough to chew nails and spit rust.
Oh, I think he has worked on cards.
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Oh, I think he has worked on cards.
For the great unwashed, is there some intel that you can share with us?

I was hoping to see some before/after pics on the website, just to showcase the skills and induce everyone to hire him for all of their cardboard restoration needs. But I wasn't seeing anything on the website.

Not only that, the list of services that he does provide seems to run the entire gamut. With such wide and disparate services offered, it just made me wonder how much he really does with cardboard.

But maybe all he really does is cardboard, and the other stuff is just smoke and mirrors to throw us off the trail.
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For the great unwashed, is there some intel that you can share with us?

I was hoping to see some before/after pics on the website, just to showcase the skills and induce everyone to hire him for all of their cardboard restoration needs. But I wasn't seeing anything on the website.

Not only that, the list of services that he does provide seems to run the entire gamut. With such wide and disparate services offered, it just made me wonder how much he really does with cardboard.

But maybe all he really does is cardboard, and the other stuff is just smoke and mirrors to throw us off the trail.
He's no fool, he's not going to put those on his website. I am sure he does not need his website to get card business. He is known. I am sure people on this board have used him for cards.
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For the great unwashed, is there some intel that you can share with us?

I was hoping to see some before/after pics on the website, just to showcase the skills and induce everyone to hire him for all of their cardboard restoration needs. But I wasn't seeing anything on the website.

Not only that, the list of services that he does provide seems to run the entire gamut. With such wide and disparate services offered, it just made me wonder how much he really does with cardboard.

But maybe all he really does is cardboard, and the other stuff is just smoke and mirrors to throw us off the trail.
In the second paragraph of the About section, it says "...revive beloved Baseball Cards..." so it appears they've done some work on cards. Just how much is not clear.
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In the second paragraph of the About section, it says "...revive beloved Baseball Cards..." so it appears they've done some work on cards. Just how much is not clear.
Why does that quote evoke images of a Bayou Queen, chicken sacrifice, and a promise to get your beloved back.
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In the second paragraph of the About section, it says "...revive beloved Baseball Cards..." so it appears they've done some work on cards. Just how much is not clear.
Right right. Saw that masterful description, but it didn’t go a long way to convincing me this is the next Mastro. But he’s probably just hiding his candle lest he be accused of improprieties.
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I think the main thing some of you lawyers are missing here is that your conclusions assume that your viewpoint must be shared by everyone in order to be correct.

But it is completely valid for someone to hold the opinion that cleaning a baseball card or soaking one in water is not an alteration and that there is no need to disclose something like that because there is in fact nothing to disclose. It has no material effect on the value of the cards and the buyers are not out any money. Thus there is no fraud and nobody has been defrauded.

Here's a strawman that highlights how absurd some of your positions are. There is a cohort of collectors in this hobby who are under the delusion that the majority of cards which have at some point been sold through PWCC are likely altered. This is of course utter nonsense. If you follow Peter's et al logic, then I would have an obligation to disclose that a card I'm selling was once sold by PWCC in order to avoid being guilty of fraud because if the buyer knew it's history and were "informed" of this cohort's viewpoint, then the card's value would surely be impacted. *facepalm*
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