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FWIW, I'm not sure that I agree with the observation that secretarial Fernando autographs exhibit the long tail below the signature.
When I lived in So Cal I managed to get Fernando's autograph 3 times in the wild. For your consideration, please see the attached photo of the autograph that he signed for me at the LA Open at Riviera CC in Pacific Palisades, CA in the early-mid 1990's. OT, so sad about the fires in LA. RIP to the 16 people that died in the fires. I spotted Fernando and his son walking in to watch the tournament and managed to get this autograph on my golf periscope. To say that he was a reluctant signer is the understatement of the year, but I did get it as the result of some serious begging from my close friend when I initially got rebuffed. ![]() Note the long tales I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to the theory that secretarial Fernando autographs were the only ones that had this characteristic. ![]() RIP Fernando, one of the great characters in the MLB. Last edited by Scott Garner; 01-14-2025 at 05:28 AM. |
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This thread makes me want to focus on factory pack pulled autographs vs after market autographs.(and not TPA autographs)
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Yes, there are several authentic variants of Valenzuela's signature with a tail on one of the letters in his surname.
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Here is another Fernando card I got signed in person. Note that it does have a below the line tail, but it is on the "l" and not on the "z."
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One question to the group on very early rookie autographs of Fernando.
I have what I believe to be an different early index card example of his signature, where he completely scribes Fernando, not the Fdo that you usually see. Can others share what they believe to be a very early example of Fernando? At this point this conversation has me wondering if my index card is a secretarial example... Thanks in advance... |
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So Kevin, do you believe the PSA slabbed '86 Donruss above is not Fernando's signature?
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Brent, unfortunately I believe that one to be a TTM version, and therefore most likely secretarial...if you look at the 2 side-by-side cards I posted above, your slabbed 86D signature matches pretty much spot-on the card on the right (which I received TTM). That's just my opinion, for whatever that's worth. From what I have witnessed, once a signature makes it into a PSA slab, the vast majority of collectors, buyers, and sellers don't really seem to care what I or anyone else thinks! Lol
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