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Old 01-14-2025, 07:20 AM
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Interesting info. The 1991 Topps set probably has more variations and print defects than any other set. Compiling a complete master set would truly be an accomplishment.

It seems, based upon initial looking at this set the non-glow backs occurred first. After printing some of the Desert Shield set, which was thought to occur early in the print run, they added brighteners to the red ink. I actually have card(s) with brightener and no brightener on the same back.

Variations and print defects are seemingly unlimited
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Old 01-14-2025, 08:27 AM
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Interesting info. The 1991 Topps set probably has more variations and print defects than any other set. Compiling a complete master set would truly be an accomplishment.

It seems, based upon initial looking at this set the non-glow backs occurred first. After printing some of the Desert Shield set, which was thought to occur early in the print run, they added brighteners to the red ink. I actually have card(s) with brightener and no brightener on the same back.

Variations and print defects are seemingly unlimited
I think the glow backs and the non glow backs were printed in two different places and I actually think the base set was printed in at least three different places.

There a number of variations that are only found on either a glow back or a non glow back and it doesn't matter if it's an early pack/box before any
corrections were made or a late pack/box after all of the corrections were made the variation is based on the glow or non glow back.

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Old 01-14-2025, 11:58 AM
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I had this sojo as the error --


26a Luis Sojo large gap between BLUE JAYS and registration symbol in team banner

26b Luis Sojo small gap between BLUE JAYS and registration symbol in team banner


but I haven't seen both error/corrected side by side ----

is one much more rare ?
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Old 01-14-2025, 01:27 PM
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I remember getting those trademark location differences on a few, Patterson and Searcy come to mind, but not this one...and I am done looking for 91 differences at this stage in my life

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I had this sojo as the error --


26a Luis Sojo large gap between BLUE JAYS and registration symbol in team banner

26b Luis Sojo small gap between BLUE JAYS and registration symbol in team banner


but I haven't seen both error/corrected side by side ----

is one much more rare ?
If it exists the small gap between Blue Jays and registration symbol is the rare variation. I haven't seen one and when I asked about it I didn't get any replies. The only variation that I've seen on the Sojo is the gap in the circle around the registration symbol is smaller on some examples.

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If it exists the small gap between Blue Jays and registration symbol is the rare variation. I haven't seen one and when I asked about it I didn't get any replies. The only variation that I've seen on the Sojo is the gap in the circle around the registration symbol is smaller on some examples.
It does exist but it is very minor in difference. I used to sell the pairs many years ago but stopped pulling them once they stopped selling.

Currently I have just a fraction of 1991 Topps that I used to but I will dig around and see if I can pull together both versions.

This one on COMC is the smaller space version, as far as I can tell:

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It does exist but it is very minor in difference. I used to sell the pairs many years ago but stopped pulling them once they stopped selling.

Currently I have just a fraction of 1991 Topps that I used to but I will dig around and see if I can pull together both versions.

This one on COMC is the smaller space version, as far as I can tell:

[IMG][/IMG]

Because it was on the list I was looking for more than a Minor difference. I thought it was going to be more like Ducey, Patterson and the others that are on the list.

There are probably dozens of examples with minor differences in their registration and trademark positions. I keep the recent cards I purchased in separate boxes but in a
quick check of my old cards I only had to look a few cards in to find an example with a minor difference. In my eyes these Kelley examples are easier to detect than the Sojo.

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Because it was on the list I was looking for more than a Minor difference. I thought it was going to be more like Ducey, Patterson and the others that are on the list.

There are probably dozens of examples with minor differences in their registration and trademark positions. I keep the recent cards I purchased in separate boxes but in a
quick check of my old cards I only had to look a few cards in to find an example with a minor difference. In my eyes these Kelley examples are easier to detect than the Sojo.

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Interesting that these two are both E* players.
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