Koufax�s prices are even higher from a year ago

Mark17 · #1 01-23-2025, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

As a general principle though, keep in mind that there's an enormous gulf between idolizing a certain historical figure who might have accomplished something of lasting importance and idolizing a professional entertainer.

Too bad about Canada having half its territory cleaved off. Bummer for you.

In my world, collecting historical artifacts, including artifacts used and worn in action by athletes, does not logically lead to the conclusion that said collector is idolizing said athlete. Some of us just think historical stuff is neat.

I'd love to have, someday, a fossilized piece of dinosaur bone. Doesn't mean I'd idolize that once-living creature.

Topps206 · #2 01-23-2025, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

Too bad about Canada having half its territory cleaved off. Bummer for you.

In my world, collecting historical artifacts, including artifacts used and worn in action by athletes, does not logically lead to the conclusion that said collector is idolizing said athlete. Some of us just think historical stuff is neat.

I'd love to have, someday, a fossilized piece of dinosaur bone. Doesn't mean I'd idolize that once-living creature.

To piggyback off this, not every athlete in my autograph collection has been a stellar human being in their lives. Just because I have their autograph doesn�t mean I worship them or condone any past misdeeds.

Also, even if people do worship/idolize, it�s none of my business if they do.

Balticfox · #3 01-23-2025, 10:53 PM

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To piggyback off this, not every athlete in my autograph collection has been a stellar human being in their lives. Just because I have their autograph doesn�t mean I worship them or condone any past misdeeds.

I'm with you on that point. I have zilch interest in players as human beings. To me they're just professional entertainers, no more and no less.

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Also, even if people do worship/idolize, it�s none of my business if they do.

This though is a discussion forum. Meaning I'm free to snicker at the foibles of others. It's a right I've never been shy about exercising.

Topps206 · #4 01-23-2025, 11:07 PM

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I'm with you on that point. I have zilch interest in players as human beings. To me they're just professional entertainers, no more and no less.

This though is a discussion forum. Meaning I'm free to snicker at the foibles of others. It's a right I've never been shy about exercising.

Okay, and you�ve seemed to insinuate in this thread how collecting has been financially ruinous for you. Should we be judgmental of you and snicker at you for such decisions?

Balticfox · #5 01-23-2025, 11:52 PM

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Okay, and you’ve seemed to insinuate in this thread how collecting has been financially ruinous for you. Should we be judgmental of you and snicker at you for such decisions?

Anytime! I'm certainly man enough to admit to my failings.

Keep in mind though that I will nevertheless bite back when my tail is pulled.

Balticfox · #6 01-23-2025, 10:53 PM

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Too bad about Canada having half its territory cleaved off. Bummer for you.

Yeah, it certainly was. And I see you fellows have been largely successful in wiping out the use of French in Louisiana. But I understand you're still dealing with the demographic consequences of having grabbed Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California from Mexico. I have to smile at the irony.

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Originally Posted by Mark17

In my world, collecting historical artifacts, including artifacts used and worn in action by athletes, does not logically lead to the conclusion that said collector is idolizing said athlete. Some of us just think historical stuff is neat.

I'd love to have, someday, a fossilized piece of dinosaur bone. Doesn't mean I'd idolize that once-living creature.

You're right. It's not a logical certainty. But on the basis of empirical evidence it certainly looks as if hero worship plays a major part in most cases.

Mark17 · #7 01-23-2025, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Yeah, it certainly was. And I see you fellows have been largely successful in wiping out the use of French in Louisiana. But I understand you're still dealing with the demographic consequences of having grabbed Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California from Mexico. I have to smile at the irony.

Had we not managed to grab those great states, our "demographic consequences" would simply exist farther north. Being far wealthier than a neighbor will inevitably result in such problems, wherever the national border is drawn.

I realize you're trying to find a reason to smile, but our historical national territorial acquisitions have worked out rather well.

To bring us back on topic, Sandy Koufax likes California and prefers speaking English to Spanish or French.

Balticfox · #8 01-24-2025, 12:12 AM

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To bring us back on topic, Sandy Koufax likes California and prefers speaking English to Spanish or French.

Ho, hum. Just like so many others. I'd be much more impressed if he spoke at least passable Latin.

Cutting to the chase though, I have Sandy Koufax's 1962 Canadian Post Cereal card, his 1962 Shirriff Baseball coin, his 1963 Salada Baseball coin and his 1964 Topps Baseball coins but I have only this single Koufax Topps card:

I'd like more of Sandy Koufax's Topps cards from 1957-65 to get further along toward completing those sets.

His autograph though? I'll pass on that. I'll also leave his sweaty old jerseys to others.

Mark17 · #9 01-24-2025, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Cutting to the chase though, I have Sandy Koufax's 1962 Topps card, his 1962 Canadian Post Cereal card, his 1962 Shirriff Baseball coin, his 1963 Salada Baseball coin and his 1964 Topps Baseball coins. Moreover I'd like more of Sandy Koufax's Topps cards from 1957-65 to get further along toward completing those sets.

Sounds like you idolize him, despite his linguistic shortcomings.

Balticfox · #10 01-24-2025, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

Sounds like you idolize him, despite his linguistic shortcomings.

I have complete or near complete sets of all those issues I listed with the exception of the 1962 Topps. But his 1963 and 1965 Topps cards are indeed fairly high on my Want List since they're particularly nice looking.

I never really liked Sandy Koufax as a pitcher though. As a kid I was more a fan of Juan Marichal and Milt Pappas. These days my favourite pitchers from Koufax's era are Warren Spahn, Hoyt Wilhelm and Jim Bunning.

And he still has time to crack open a Latin textbook or two....

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