WWG DiMaggios -- are these the same card?

Lorewalker · #1 01-26-2025, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My point is simply the owner or Goldin could have measured the card to make a judgment if SGC had the min size right or not, given the huge upside if there was a reasonable chance it could regrade with a number grade. And if they concluded it was within spec, send it in again, don't sell it for a fraction of value. Not commenting on trimmed or not.

At least 1 employee of Goldin's does not know what Auth Min Size means so to think they might take the next step and measure the card is a huge stretch.

It is possible the consignor agreed with SGC's call or lacked the interest or sophistication to question SGC's conclusion. Most in the hobby who buy into the slab concept defer entirely to what the TPG concludes.

What cards end up as Min Size varies from grader to grader and grading company to grading company.

I do not like the Min Size "grade". At this point the grading companies have graded so many trimmed and altered cards why not just slap a number grade on a card that is small but has 100% legit cuts from the factory? As I understand it, the entire reason the graders do not do this is to eliminate the perception that they might have slabbed a trimmed card because the card is small. Sort of funny at this point.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 01-26-2025, 03:42 PM

Maybe the best thing would be a number grade with a qualifier for size?

Lorewalker · #3 01-26-2025, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe the best thing would be a number grade with a qualifier for size?

Missed this...Yes. Qualify the card as being small but assign a grade. Being cut small, to me, is no different than a card being printed off center.

rhettyeakley · #4 01-26-2025, 07:59 PM

Bottom border looks suspicious.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 01-26-2025, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

At least 1 employee of Goldin's does not know what Auth Min Size means so to think they might take the next step and measure the card is a huge stretch.

It is possible the consignor agreed with SGC's call or lacked the interest or sophistication to question SGC's conclusion. Most in the hobby who buy into the slab concept defer entirely to what the TPG concludes.

What cards end up as Min Size varies from grader to grader and grading company to grading company.

I do not like the Min Size "grade". At this point the grading companies have graded so many trimmed and altered cards why not just slap a number grade on a card that is small but has 100% legit cuts from the factory? As I understand it, the entire reason the graders do not do this is to eliminate the perception that they might have slabbed a trimmed card because the card is small. Sort of funny at this point.

One would hope their pre war/graded card expert would be the one to write up a card that significant, but I don't know how the business works. Anyhow, at least with hindsight, the prior consignor appears to have left a lot of money on the table. And it sure would be interesting to know who won and submitted it to PSA.

Lorewalker · #6 01-26-2025, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

One would hope their pre war/graded card expert would be the one to write up a card that significant, but I don't know how the business works.

Lots of questions here...

Did PSA assign a grade to a card that was truly smaller than 1/32 of an inch? Most of us will get cards kicked back for Min Size (assuming card is not trimmed), if they are between 1/64 and 1/32 short.

Who at Goldin wrote the auction description the first time the card was offered to be described as possibly being trimmed?

Was this the same person who wrote the description 3 months later for the card in the 6.5 holder and did not notice they were the same card and should they have noticed?

Is this card actually trimmed and that is why it is small? Harder to answer with the card in the holder but not impossible.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 01-26-2025, 03:59 PM

There are often more questions than answers in this hobby.

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