MLB wants Dodgers(Ohtani) vs Yankees(Judge) - NFL/Goodell helped the Chiefs

[G1911]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...bdc0a2930d6129

Pick your source, the media was running with this $331.5 million only from September 2023 to January 2024 alone. She brings a ton of eyes and money. There is a very long history of the biggest players and teams getting more lenient officiating in sports, leading to more wins and better outcomes for them. I would be quite surprised if the NFL right now is a sudden exception to that.

[Carter08]

When Greg and I agree on an issue that makes it an unassailable position, almost by definition!

[packs]

That ignores all other revenue generating story lines. If the Bills made it to the Super Bowl it would bring a ton of eyes. Who wouldn't want to see the Bills either finally win or pitifully lose a fifth Super Bowl?

I do agree that exceptional players get the benefit of a lot of doubts. An umpire might call a strike on a rookie they wouldn't call if Aaron Judge were at the plate, for example. But league-wide collusion to alter the outcomes of games at the executive level seems farfetched.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by packs

That ignores all other revenue generating story lines. If the Bills made it to the Super Bowl it would bring a ton of eyes. Who wouldn't want to see the Bills either finally win or pitifully lose a fifth Super Bowl?

I do agree that exceptional players get the benefit of a lot of doubts. An umpire might call a strike on a rookie they wouldn't call if Aaron Judge were at the plate, for example. But league-wide collusion to alter the outcomes of games at the executive level seems farfetched.

This is true for Guys. But for female viewship it's all about the Chiefs and Kelce and the Tramp.

And no league wide collusion, not sure who started that. This is all Goodell, he is a crook. He is money & power happy. He wants the most watched most money generated SB's while it's under his helm.

[Section103]

Never mind that so much of this makes absolutely no sense at all (gambling? wouldnt Vegas DO BETTER by having the Chiefs LOSE??), so lets put that aside.

Whats the damn point of all of this? SURELY if you believe its fixed you arent watching the NFL now or ever again, right? I mean, my god, what a colossal waste of time. So if you arent watching, how is it you can recount all of the injustices? Why would you care? I dont see anyone giving us WWE updates.

And further, why talk about it at all? Yall just trying to help us see the light? Thanks? But like many things in life, you may find that nobody GAF what other people think.

Nope. This is just the 2025 contortion of bitching about teams/outcomes we/you dont like and pretending to put some sort of intellectual hat on it.

[D. Bergin]

I hope all you fella's were equally up in arms when Brady was getting the star treatment......or was the Gisele's fault?

People thinking Taylor Swift fandom is determining the outcome of games is just bonkers to me.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Section103

Never mind that so much of this makes absolutely no sense at all (gambling? wouldnt Vegas DO BETTER by having the Chiefs LOSE??), so lets put that aside.

Whats the damn point of all of this? SURELY if you believe its fixed you arent watching the NFL now or ever again, right? I mean, my god, what a colossal waste of time. So if you arent watching, how is it you can recount all of the injustices? Why would you care? I dont see anyone giving us WWE updates.

And further, why talk about it at all? Yall just trying to help us see the light? Thanks? But like many things in life, you may find that nobody GAF what other people think.

Nope. This is just the 2025 contortion of bitching about teams/outcomes we/you dont like and pretending to put some sort of intellectual hat on it.

I didn’t bring gambling into it but Vegas benefitted from the Chiefs win. More money was on the Bills with a higher payout.

[Section103]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I didn’t bring gambling into it but Vegas benefitted from the Chiefs win. More money was on the Bills with a higher payout.

And was that the case for every Chiefs game or can we conclude that there is no strong correlation between Vegas' position and the Chiefs outcome?

[Shoeless Moe]

Listen to Burr on Rich Eisen, he pretty much nails it....

start at about 15:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvFA5N9muBI

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

When Greg and I agree on an issue that makes it an unassailable position, almost by definition!

I laughed lol. This is the definition

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by G1911

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...bdc0a2930d6129

Pick your source, the media was running with this $331.5 million only from September 2023 to January 2024 alone. She brings a ton of eyes and money. There is a very long history of the biggest players and teams getting more lenient officiating in sports, leading to more wins and better outcomes for them. I would be quite surprised if the NFL right now is a sudden exception to that.

I missed clicking the link but now have and here is a good factoid:


How much money has Taylor Swift made for the NFL?
Swift attended her first Chiefs game of 2023 on Sept. 24. Since then, she's attended 12 games total, including the AFC championship. The Super Bowl will be her 13th game, which, if you know the 14-time Grammy winner, couldn't be more fitting.

Ahead of the Chiefs' AFC title win over the Ravens on Jan. 28, Apex Marketing Group calculated how much brand value Swift has generated for the league and the Kansas City-based franchise. The revenue added by the singer came out to an estimated $331.5 million between print, digital, radio, TV, highlights and social media, according to Front Office Sports.

[Section103]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I missed clicking the link but now have and here is a good factoid:


How much money has Taylor Swift made for the NFL?
Swift attended her first Chiefs game of 2023 on Sept. 24. Since then, she's attended 12 games total, including the AFC championship. The Super Bowl will be her 13th game, which, if you know the 14-time Grammy winner, couldn't be more fitting.

Ahead of the Chiefs' AFC title win over the Ravens on Jan. 28, Apex Marketing Group calculated how much brand value Swift has generated for the league and the Kansas City-based franchise. The revenue added by the singer came out to an estimated $331.5 million between print, digital, radio, TV, highlights and social media, according to Front Office Sports.

Something seems fishy and frankly I doubt BOTH sets of numbers. Forbes says the Chiefs revenue was $591M for 2023. Even if you spread Swift's impact over 2 years......that's remarkably significant.

https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-chiefs/

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Section103

Something seems fishy and frankly I doubt BOTH sets of numbers. Forbes says the Chiefs revenue was $591M for 2023. Even if you spread Swift's impact over 2 years......that's remarkably significant.

https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-chiefs/

yah why believe Forbes, they've only been around since 1917.

[Section103]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

yah why believe Forbes, they've only been around since 1917.

Oh, I believe Forbes reported the number they were given. Im just not certain I believe in the number they were given. But if you believe Forbes, how in the heck did the Chiefs generate $590M and $3XX million was attributable to Taylor? And why do the Chiefs suck so bad as a revenue generating organization when all of the other NFL teams revenues have very comparable revenue numbers without a Taylor Swift impact?


Is the link to the article you posted completely wrong?

[Section103]

Thank you both, gentlemen. For the record I wont be watching the SB either. Not because I think its fixed but because I dont care for either team. But my question was in the broader sense....I dont understand why you would watch any games at all. Just a hard habit to break?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Section103

Thank you both, gentlemen. For the record I wont be watching the SB either. Not because I think its fixed but because I dont care for either team. But my question was in the broader sense....I dont understand why you would watch any games at all. Just a hard habit to break?

because 99% of the games are fine.

I'll say this. I was at one point a Steelers fan. Until Roethlisburger raped a girl. And the Steelers did nothing to punish him (the League suspended him 4 games). Should have be off the team. Would have if he wasn't the star, any other player would have been gone. Lost all respect for that franchise. Once a proud franchise, the almighty dollar guided their very POOR decision to do nothing.

So I've never watched another Steeler game, nor visited their stadium(s) again, no more merch, etc.


So to be determined if this gets me out of "PRO" football. It might, we'll see how my not watching the SB goes. Guessing quite smooth.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Section103

Thank you both, gentlemen. For the record I wont be watching the SB either. Not because I think its fixed but because I dont care for either team. But my question was in the broader sense....I dont understand why you would watch any games at all. Just a hard habit to break?

The hope that next year the script favors my team or my team is good enough to overcome the stacked deck. Hard habit to break is correct but it’s showing cracks.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Section103

Something seems fishy and frankly I doubt BOTH sets of numbers. Forbes says the Chiefs revenue was $591M for 2023. Even if you spread Swift's impact over 2 years......that's remarkably significant.

https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-chiefs/

because those figures ad intangibles into the value. Like the claim that Tiger's chip in at the Masters where the Nike logo hung over the lip of the cup nad then fell in was worth 100 Million to Nike.

Nobody handed Nike $100 million in cash, and their sales didn't go up by that amount, but the amount of airplay that shot got in terms of advertising was worth that much.

So first off, $300 million is chicken feed compared to the revenue the NFL as a whole generates even if it was actual cash in someone's pocket; And again who's pocket??? It's not like Goodell gets to stuff it in his mattress, league revenues get shared so now you're dividing the spoils 32 ways. But wait that $300 million figure is largely intangibles like the Nike figure.

But yup, the other owners are all going to agree to not win Super Bowls because Taylor Swift blah, blah blah...