Poll Should GA disclose that the PSA 6.5 and SGC MIN SIZE Dimaggios are same card?

Peter_Spaeth · #1 01-28-2025, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I don't believe it would result in a lower price. The card will bring PSA graded price whether you say SGC wouldn't grade it or not. You can't assume it would just because a minsize card with no subsequent grading history sold for less.

It might not, especially if there is a registry angle. My only point is, disclose and let people decide, don't conceal.

OhioLawyerF5 · #2 01-28-2025, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It might not, especially if there is a registry angle. My only point is, disclose and let people decide, don't conceal.

Same as if it had a lower grade from SGC. You can use pretzel logic all you want, but you can't have it both ways. Either reveal every detail that could potentially affect the price, or not. You can't pick and choose. That's why my position is we don't need to try to decide what is necessary to disclose or not. The card is what it is and is in the slab that it's in. No mental gymnastics to decide which piece of info is important.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 01-28-2025, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Same as if it had a lower grade from SGC. You can use pretzel logic all you want, but you can't have it both ways. Either reveal every detail that could potentially affect the price, or not. You can't pick and choose. That's why my position is we don't need to try to decide what is necessary to disclose or not. The card is what it is and is in the slab that it's in. No mental gymnastics to decide which piece of info is important.

Lots of arguments are nuanced and are not all or nothing. Sure, you can do a Socratic method/slippery slope pushback on my point of view, but to me that doesn't necessarily invalidate it. As someone once said, just because there's a slippery slope, you don't have to ski it to the bottom. Justice Ginsburg maybe. Anyhow, I get your point.

ullmandds · #4 01-28-2025, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Same as if it had a lower grade from SGC. You can use pretzel logic all you want, but you can't have it both ways. Either reveal every detail that could potentially affect the price, or not. You can't pick and choose. That's why my position is we don't need to try to decide what is necessary to disclose or not. The card is what it is and is in the slab that it's in. No mental gymnastics to decide which piece of info is important.

So how do you feel about the PSA 8 Wagner card? The fact that it's 100% known to have been cut from a sheet after it was printed at the factory therefore it should be disqualified from receiving a numerical grade.. yet PSA said it was an 8.

Does this "not matter?"

OhioLawyerF5 · #5 01-28-2025, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

So how do you feel about the PSA 8 Wagner card? The fact that it's 100% known to have been cut from a sheet after it was printed at the factory therefore it should be disqualified from receiving a numerical grade.. yet PSA said it was an 8.

Does this "not matter?"

Don't misunderstand my position. I'm not against disclosure and always err on the side of disclosure. And I am always an advicate of disclosing known flaws, defects, and alterations. Minsize is none of those things.

ullmandds · #6 01-28-2025, 06:51 PM

I am not a fan of the term minsize... if the size is slightly off normal tolerances, yet looks unaltered. It should receive a number. if it appears to be altered it should not.. minsize should always be accompanied by possibly trim.

OhioLawyerF5 · #7 01-28-2025, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

I am not a fan of the term minsize... if the size is slightly off normal tolerances, yet looks unaltered. It should receive a number. if it appears to be altered it should not.. minsize should always be accompanied by possibly trim.

Agreed. I think that's the issue here and my initial solution. A real understanding of what minsize means results in treating them like a differing opinion on number grades when it comes to disclosure. But minsize, unaltered cards should get a grade.

View Poll Results: Should GA disclose that the PSA 6.5 WWG Dimaggio is the same card as the SGC MIN SIZE
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